Last I heard the third edition was due out during the first half of this
year.  A draft is currently in review with the CSA Subcommittee on CSA C22.2
No. 950 and the UL 1950 IAC.

Rick Cooper
Sr. Project Engineer
MET Laboratories, Inc.
410-354-3323 Ext. 331
http://www.metlabs.com/ <http://www.metlabs.com/> 



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Ned Devine [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:   Friday, January 14, 2000 15:22
        To:     [email protected]
        Subject:        RE: Capacitors to Ground

        Hi,
         
        I was quoting from the new edition, 3rd, of IEC 60950.
         
        But, it does bring up the question of when the EN, UL/CSA versions
will be issued.  Anyone have the proposed dates?
         
        Ned Devine
        Entela, Inc.
        Program Manager III
        Phone 616 248 9671
        Fax  616 574 9752
        e-mail  [email protected] 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: barry marks [mailto:[email protected]]
                Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:20 PM
                To: 'Ned Devine'; [email protected]
                Subject: RE: Capacitors to Ground
                
                
                Ned, Interesting, my copy of EN60950 (covers through A4)
doesn't have the part about the "y" caps, it only addresses "X" cap
applications in 1.5.6.   "Y" capacitors are referenced in 1.6.4, but that
clause is specifically for IT power systems, which our equipment will not
function on.
                 
                What version of EN60950 did you quote that from?
                 
                Thanks,
                Barry Marks

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ned Devine
                        Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:49 AM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: RE: Capacitors to Ground
                        
                        
                        Hi,
                         
                        You might be in trouble, Clause 1.5.6 of IEC 60950,
3rd edition requires Y.  See Clause below.
                         
                        Ned Devine
                        Entela, Inc.
                        Program Manager III
                        Phone 616 248 9671
                        Fax  616 574 9752
                        e-mail  [email protected] 

                         
                        1.5.6 Capacitors in primary circuits

                        A capacitor connected between two line conductors of
the PRIMARY CIRCUIT, or between one line

                        conductor and the neutral conductor, shall comply
with IEC 60384-14:1993, subclass X1 or X2.

                        The duration of the damp heat, steady state test as
specified in 4.12 of IEC 60384-14:1993 shall

                        be 21 days.

                        A capacitor connected between the PRIMARY CIRCUIT
and protective earth shall comply with of

                        IEC 60384-14:1993, subclass Y1, Y2 or Y4, as
applicable.

                        NOTE - The above requirement does not apply to
capacitors connected from a HAZARDOUS VOLTAGE SECONDARY

                        CIRCUIT to earth. For such capacitors, the electric
strength test of 5.2.2 is considered sufficient.

                        Compliance is checked by inspection.

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: BarryM [mailto:[email protected]]
                                Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:03 PM
                                To: [email protected]
                                Subject: Capactitors to Ground
                                
                                
                                Hello all, 

                                I'm looking for any standards / decisions /
interpretations, etc... that discuss the use of capacitors to ground in
industrial, fixed, permanently connected equipment. We have a 3 phase, 400V
product that requires a significant amount of capacitance to ground, and the
use of available "Y" rated capacitors is burdensome in that it would take a
lot of them. We're aware of leakage current issues, and are well within the
5% allowance (EN50091-1-1, which references EN60950 for most core
requirements). We are using about 1.3-2uf from each phase to ground. UL and
CSA both do not require "y" type capacitors in this class of product, I'm
hoping there is a similar rationale in Europe.

                                Thank you in advance for any comments you
may have,

                                Barry Marks
        

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