RE: Steel Balls vs. ChickensNational Research Council in Canada has used 
chiekens in conjunction with their wind tunnel tests for airworthiness of 
aircraft designs for at least 25 years. 

Ralph Cameron

EMC Consulting and Suppression of Consumer Electronics 
(after sale)


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary McInturff 
  To: '[email protected]' ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; 
[email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:14 PM
  Subject: RE: Steel Balls vs. Chickens


  You can find similar data by going through commercial aircraft test 
procedures. I've seen the video from Boeing of chickens going through turbine 
blades, cockpit deflections etc. Don't have a contact for you but its not a 
super secret military idea - and it the turbine test makes tasty sliced chicken 
for sandwiches.
      Gary
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:30 AM
    To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Steel Balls vs. Chickens


    Then, of course, there is the (apocryphal?) story of the Brits forgetting 
to defrost the chickens in their tests...  just goes to say that those dreally 
etailed test procedures can come in handy...

    Kathy M. MacLean 
    President, APREL Laboratories 
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Michael Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
      Sent: September 26, 2001 3:52 PM
      To: '[email protected]'; [email protected]
      Subject: RE: Steel Balls vs. Chickens


      A really "trick" cannon was used at China Lake-NWTC & Edwards-AFB to test 
the impact resistance on All Weather Aircraft wind screens & canopy's.  Fresh 
Frozen chickens were defrosted the day before and "shot" out of a high pressure 
tube at the subject wind screens & canopy's simulating bird impact in flight.  
At the end of the test you could not imagine the carnage unless you saw it.  
What a mess.  Many times I wished I was able to photograph the scene - but no 
cameras allowed.

      Michael Taylor. 

      -----Original Message----- 
      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
      Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:51 PM 
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Steel Balls vs. Chickens 






      In the late 1960's I was working on what became IBM's first copier. 
      We made frequent use of "NESA" glass, a PPG product.  This consisted 
      of an ultra-thin gold layer deposited on glass sheets.  We could perform 
      photoconductor light-discharge experiments by coating the PC on the 
      gold surface, and expose from the opposite side. 

      I was told that the NESA glass concept was developed during WWII to 
      defrost bomber windshields.  These were typically made of plexi-glass, 
      and would not thermally conduct sufficient heat from within the cockpit 
to 
      defrost the exterior.  The gold coating was placed on the outside of the 
      windshield, and DC current passed across the surface to create enough 
      heat to melt frost. 

      The question of durability of the gold coating to birds striking the 
surface 
      was established by "firing" dead chickens at test surfaces.  I often 
kidded 
      one of my mechanical engineering friends that he could  and should design 
      a top-of-the-line chicken "cannon", with variable muzzle velocity, 
variable 
      bores for using birds of different sizes, etc. 

      As you know, jet airplane engines are still tested for their resiliency 
to birds 
      both small (near airport ground level) and large (those ecountered at 
high 
      altitudes) by similar methods. 

      George Alspaugh 




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