Paul,
American Society for Quality ( website, http:/www.asq.org ) is asking for
professionals to volunteer for a panel to do this type of analysis.
Probabilistic evaluations (Reliability, Quality, Fault Tree) are more ASQ
than EMC.
We all want to do something constructive and are frustrated by our
inability to contribute. Here is a chance for us to help.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]@PITTWAYNOTES
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:54 AM
To: "Whitehouse, Terence (Terry)" <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Price, Ed'" <[email protected]>; "'[email protected]'"
<[email protected]>; [email protected];
"'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: WTC - voice alarm system?
Folks,
The subject discussion is appropriate for the audience if it can be
focused
on possible methods to continue to ensure safety compliance. Several
Standards (including SEMI S10, EN 1050 etc. ) require that a written
risk
assessment also be provided to demonstrate compliance to the relevant
safety standard.
Many compliance engineers are also involved in risk evaluations of one
type
or another of the following.
1. ) Fault Tree Analysis (FTA)
2.) Risk Assessments
3.) Failure Mode Effects Analysis (FMEA)
4.) Reliability and /or Quality Assurance
Regards, Paul J Smith, Teradyne, Boston
"Whitehouse, Terence (Terry)" <[email protected]>@majordomo.ieee.org
on
09/18/2001 04:05:23 PM
Please respond to "Whitehouse, Terence (Terry)" <[email protected]>
Sent by: [email protected]
To: "'Price, Ed'" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'"
<[email protected]>, [email protected]
cc: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: WTC - voice alarm system?
Ed,
The name of this forum is "EMC-PSTC" - EMC and product safety.
For us a group, speculating on general matters of security is not
appropriate. There are other professional bodies and organizations
created
and staffed specifically to address this very sensitive subject.
Let us focus on what were are here to do - promote the design and
placement
of our products in the global marketplace. Design of annunciation
systems
hardened against (i.e. immune to) unauthorized external signals is what
we
should be endeavoring to create. Human dynamics should be the province
of
those specializing in the subject.
I am sure that, with the enormous wealth of experience that exists
within
this group, there are some real meaningful contributions that can be
made
to
the general safety topic. However, I respectfully suggest that the
potential creativity be focussed into other more appropriate groups.
Terry Whitehouse
-----Original Message-----
From: Price, Ed [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:46 AM
To: '[email protected]'; [email protected]
Cc: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: WTC - voice alarm system?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:07 AM
>To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>Subject: RE: WTC - voice alarm system?
>
>
>
>This is not a secure forum. I strongly urge people not to
>post security
>information for buildings here.
>
>All of us in the NYC area still grieve for our loved ones, or
>have close
>friends who are grieving.
>
>David Sterner
>ADEMCO
>Syosset, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]@PITTWAYNOTES On
>Behalf Of
> John Woodgate <[email protected]>@PITTWAYNOTES
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: WTC - voice alarm system?
>
>
> I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor
><[email protected]> wrote
> (in
><20010917141507.LMHT9391.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[65.11.150.27]>
> ) about 'WTC - voice alarm system?', on Mon, 17 Sep 2001:
> >I'm not certain (I wasn't there) but I heard that there were
> announcements
> >in the 2nd tower that was hit after the first tower was hit to sit
> tight and
> >not evacuate because at that point they still thought it was an
> accident and
> >they didn't need a whole bunch of people evacuating the
>2nd tower and
> then
> >getting in the way of rescue operations on the street below.
>
> Thanks to you and others who replied to my post. The point
>about voice
> alarm with central control is that instructions can be
>quickly changed
> and everyone gets informed simultaneously.
> --
> Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
> http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
> Eat mink and be dreary!
David:
I would agree that, hypothetically, requesting pictures of plunging
bodies
would be totally inappropriate; however discussing the safety aspects of
the
WTC appears to be very on-topic for our group. Regarding the
non-security
of
our group; I doubt that anything we say about the WTC can cause any
further
degradation of security to that site.
Everyone must deal with this shocking event within their own reference
frame. The more technically inclined among us try to salvage some
lessons,
in building design or crowd control or emergency techniques, perhaps as
the
best tribute they can pay to the unfortunate victims.
Ed
Ed Price
[email protected]
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Systems
San Diego, CA USA
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