Chris Maxwell writes... >> However; I have been burned by buying standards that sounded like >> they would apply; but really don't.
Just had a dose of that myself last week!! I agree that the scope should be in the public domain so we can verify relevance before committing to purchase. I for one really wouldn't mind spending a whole day (week even!) reading the various scopes if I know that the decisions I will make about which standards to purchase, will be correct. As things stand at the moment, I spend that week waiting for the wrong standard to arrive in the post! I have at times resorted to a trip to the local public library to check on the scope but even that has taken a whole day because I keep *asking* for the wrong standards based on what I thought would be the applicable standard. Finding the right standard really should be a lot more straightforward. Is there anything we can do about this? - Chris Chileshe - Ultronics Ltd - http://www.ultronics.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Maxwell [SMTP:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:31 PM To: John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: ENV 50121-5 Hi John, I agree with your view; which I understand to be. 1. Nobody can paraphrase an entire standard in a email without huge chances for error... and 2. A company should buy the standard if they plan on using it. This reminds me of a thorn in my side which I hope will get the attention of those that deal in standards. I know I have a reputation for being "stumpish", so I'll keep it short. The thorn is... I believe that the at least the scope statement of any standard should be public information that can be accessed as part of the regulatory body websites (whether it's CENELEC, ACA.... whoever). There should also be no fear of people being whacked for copywrite violations because they share the scope statement from a standard. Sometimes, the title just isn't descriptive enough. We do purchase standards that we know will apply to our products. However; I have been burned by buying standards that sounded like they would apply; but really don't. I assume that a few others have had similar experiences; and that's why we see so many questions in the EMC-PSTC regarding standards applicability. Some companies do care about the cost of that $75 standard. (definitely not the opinions of my employer...) Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797 8024 NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | > -----Original Message----- > From: John Woodgate [SMTP:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:56 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Re: ENV 50121-5 > > > I read in !emc-pstc that Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA) > <daniel.bi...@gefanuc.com> wrote (in > <A9713061F01AD411B0F700D0B746CA6801 > 550...@vacho6misge.cho.ge.com>) about 'ENV 50121-5', on Thu, 6 Sep > 2001: > >I am looking for a short description of ENV 50121-5. > > What does it cover? > > Railway applications. Electromagnetic compatibility. Fixed > installations. > > >What tests does it specify? What limits does it specify for tests? > > What you are effectively asking for is the whole text of the standard. > Not sensible, not possible. Pay your USD75 or so for it. > -- > Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. > http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk > Eat mink and be dreary! > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > No longer online until our new server is brought online and the > old messages are imported into the new server. ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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