I'm looking for some feedback on NEMA versus UL type - environmental ratings 
for faceplates of panel mounted components.
  a.. First reality check - Are NEMA housing ratings = UL type, number by 
number? 
  b.. Second - Can one self certify compliance to NEMA ratings?  
  c.. Third - What is the difference between NEMA and UL type? I think of the 
NEMA rating as a proof of design test = rating while the UL type wants design 
verification at a deeper level? 
  d.. Forth - Do any of you care about UL types?  Our sister divisions design 
assemblies that use our components and use UL to inspect the design.  That is 
where the pressure is coming from over NEMA.

Our product line consists of components mounted to the door of an industrial 
type enclosure.
A pollycarbonate faceplate frames an overlay that contains membrane 
pushbuttons, embedded LEDs and a window to see our alpha numeric or grahpic 
display.  Between the faceplate and the enclosure panel is a gasket to help 
keep out moisture, dust etc.
We can meet NEMA 1, 12, 3, 3R and for some designs 4 as long as the user 
installs the component in an enclosure of equal protection.  We have tested our 
design at environmental extremes and it works well.

Where it gets difficult is when UL wants an adhesive for the overlay that is 
specifically qualified to our particular plastic over the range of specified 
environmental withstand.  They want more than a type test and follow up 
construction inspection but a rather lengthy performance test that goes beyond 
what we are prepared to do - as if we were the overlay manufactures.  Part of 
the problem is that we have a special additive to the PC plastic - stainless 
steel fibers for ESD control.  This is making for special combinations.

So what do others do?
Do you have overlay vendors that have coordinated recipe of components/adhesive 
etc. that works with  pollycarbonate from -40 to 60C and comply to UL types 
(NEMA) types 1, 12, 3, 3R, or 4?

Thanks for any FB you can give !

Chris Wells
Sen. Des Eng.
Cutler-Hammer
Pittsburgh Pa
[email protected]


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