Sorry, once again ham fisted typing lead to C64.5 rather than the proper C63.4 - my error hope it didn't confuse to many folks. Thanks for straightening that out. Gary
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:39 PM To: Gary McInturff Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC Part 18 still uses MP-5 but it is not mandatory. In cases of dispute, MP-5 will be used by the FCC. You can't go wrong, however, using ANSI C63.4 as the test set-up. Or you can use the CISPR limits as Gary described. I do not know what C64.5 is. You do not have to submit your test results through a TCB. Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 ============================================================================ ================ Gary McInturff <Gary.McInturff@worldwidepa To: "'Pierre SELVA'" <[email protected]> ckets.com> Forum Safety-emc <[email protected]> cc: (bcc: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US) 05/21/2001 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC Please respond to Gary McInturff Bon Jour (That's about it for my French) Pierre, MP-5 isn't relevant any more. I believe you want ANSI C64.5. and I think you'll find mostly similarities. I can't think of any dissimilarities of the top of my head, Even FCC part 15 allows use of the CISPR limits for radiated and conducted emissions. The only caveat (ah, more French!) is that if you accept the radiated limits during test you also have to accept the conducted limits. Some folks trip up on that one. It means that the conducted limits are really 150Khz even at US line voltage, not the normal FCC start of 450 Khz. Gary -----Original -----Original Message----- From: Pierre SELVA [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:09 AM To: Forum Safety-emc Cc: Pierre SELVA Subject: Cooking induction apparatus and FCC Dear colleagues, I need to know your opinion on the following : I have to perform EMC testing on an induction cooking table and I would like to obtain the FCC certification. In Europe, this kind of apparatus is subjected to the EN55011 (CISPR11) and the test conditions are clearly stated, mainly for the EUT configuration. I understand for the USA, the product has to be tested according to Part 18 requirements. This part explains that the technical requirements for the measurement are described in the MP-5 document. As this one is a little bit old (1986), do you believe I can use the CISPR11 to demonstrate compliance, or should I use the MP5 ? If I have to use the MP-5, do you know if somewhere the EUT configuration is described, or is the "worst case" at the manufacturer discretion ? And, at last, do you know if I have to submit my test results and EUT description to FCC directly (electronic submittal), or should I have to go to a TCB ? In advance, I thank you a lot for your answers, Best regards from France ==================================== Pierre SELVA 2 route de la Grobelle 73000 JACOB BELLECOMBETTE - France Tel : 33 (0)6 60 52 04 96 Fax : 33 (0)6 61 37 87 48 e-mail : <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ==================================== << File att1.htm not included with reply >> ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson: [email protected] Dave Heald [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
