A lump of coal will heat up in a microwave oven. No water needed. It is the
bulk resistivity of an object which allows circulating currents to generate
heat, and while water can help (when we wet something, its chemical bonds
are a source of electrons) it is not the only thing that is heated in a
microwave oven.

The cones from our chambers don't have water in them (better not, anyway)
and they'll not only heat up in the microwave, but burn with a nasty, nasty
smell. The carbon conducts, the foam that holds it burns. Not to denigrate
water's action; I remember reading that a serviceable Radar Absorbing
Material may be made by wetting foam urethane. But the frequency of
microwave ovens wasn't chosen for resonance with water.

(PURE, distilled water is an insulator. I wonder if 2450 is close enough to
even warm it up?)

Cortland


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 >> Date:  23-Apr-01 02:07:07  MsgID: 1078-34037  ToID: 72146,373
From:  David Instone >INTERNET:david_inst...@uk.xyratex.com
Subj:  Re: 2. 4 GHz cordless telephone, question of general interest
Chrg:  $0.00   Imp: Norm   Sens: Std    Receipt: No    Parts: 1

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:05:38 +0100
From: david_inst...@uk.xyratex.com (David Instone)
Subject: Re: 2. 4 GHz cordless telephone, question of general interest
Reply-To: david_inst...@uk.xyratex.com (David Instone)
 

Ken Javor wrote:
> 
> Just goes to show you can find anything on the net.  I have measured
leakage
> from microwave ovens and every one was at 2450 MHz.  And that IS a
resonant
> frequency for water and water alone.  That's why you can put waterless
items
> in and they won't heat up,

Hm, now I wonder how the the totally dry and empty pottery plate I put
in the microwave to heat (before I put my non microwave cooked food on
it) gets too hot to hold after just 60 seconds at 650W.


> and also why you should never run a microwave
> oven without a water load: with no load you get high vswr and the
magnetron
> can be damaged by reflected energy.
-- 
Regards

Dave Instone. Compliance Engineer
 Storage Systems Development, MP24/22
 Xyratex, Langstone Rd., Havant, Hampshire, P09 1SA, UK.
Tel: +44 (0)23-92-496862 (direct line)
Fax: +44 (0)23-92-496014
http://www.xyratex.com  Tel: +44 (0)23-92-496000

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