Hi Folks Hate to be a doom-bringer on this one and introduce another issue, but - to bring a note of sanity - I think the General Product Safety Directive (92/59/EEC) might actually apply to this type of kit! It applies to virtually anything where there is no sector-specific directive.
However, watch out, the CE Marking is only to be used in conjunction with a DoC against a Directive which actually specifies the use of both, and - happily -the GPS Directive is not a CE Marking Directive. Therefore if that is the most appropriate directive then you must NOT use the CE Marking. John Allen Thales Defence Communications Division Bracknell UK. > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant, Tania (Tania) [mailto:tgr...@lucent.com] > Sent: 09 April 2001 21:30 > To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail); 'Louis Fischer' > Subject: RE: Odd CE Marking Question > > I hope not;-- please don't give these (B)(E)urocrats any ideas! > > Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com > Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group > Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions > > ---------- > From: Louis Fischer[SMTP:lofis...@cisco.com] > Reply To: Louis Fischer > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 3:02 PM > To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Odd CE Marking Question > > Is there a Directive for decorative items, or perhaps for props or stage > equipment, which might be more appropriate? LEF > --------------------------- > Louis E. Fischer > Compliance Engineer > Cisco Systems, Inc. > 12515 Research Blvd, Bldg 4 > Austin, TX 78759 > (512) 378-1723 > FAX: (512) 378-1251 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org] On > Behalf Of Grant, Tania (Tania) > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:24 AM > To: Kevin Harris; 'Steve Brody' > Cc: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Odd CE Marking Question > > I don't know, Steve. That might be jumping from the frying pan > into the fire;-- has the dummy been evaluated to be a safe > toy??????????? ;) > > Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com > Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group > Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions > > ---------- > From: Steve Brody[SMTP:sbr...@prodigy.net] > Reply To: Steve Brody > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:21 PM > To: Kevin Harris > Cc: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) > Subject: Re: Odd CE Marking Question > > > Having read through most of the responses as of this writing, and > finding, as > expected, very valid and well positioned recommendations and > suggestions, I > submit that if this is intended to be a dummy intended to make > people believe > that it is what it is supposed to be, even if it is not, then a CE > Marking and > other labels may be required to complete the ruse. If, as some of > our > colleagues believe that CE Marking and claiming compliance to LVD or > EMC is not > valid and should not be done, then treat the dummy as it is and > claim compliance > to the Toys Directive and mark the product with a CE Marking. > > Steve Brody > Sr. Compliance Engineer > Thermo NESLAB > steve.br...@neslab.com or sbr...@prodigy.net > . > > Kevin Harris wrote: > > > Hello Group, > > > > I just had a question posed to me that made me think a little bit. > So I will > > pose it to all of you. First some preamble. A device is going to > be made > > for the European market. It is in fact a "dummy" device in that it > looks > > like the real thing but it is not. The only electronics inside is > a bridge > > rectifier and a RC circuit to blink a LED. The device can be > powered by > > either an AC or DC source up to 30 V. The power source is not > supplied. For > > this industry (security) there is a product family standard for > EMC. The > > device is not a mock up for store display purposes but is in fact > used in > > the industry to give the impression that there are more of these > devices > > around than there really are. > > > > So the moment has arrived, do you CE mark the device? If you say > yes, what > > directive did you apply? If you say no, what is your reasoning? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kevin Harris > > Manager, Approval Services > > Digital Security Controls > > 3301 Langstaff Road > > Concord, Ontario > > CANADA > > L4K 4L2 > > > > Tel: +1 905 760 3000 Ext. 2378 > > Fax +1 905 760 3020 > > > > Email: harr...@dscltd.com <mailto:harr...@dscltd.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > majord...@ieee.org > > with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," > > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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