I just checked with my attorneys (the very prestigious firm of Dewey, Cheetum & Howe)... And they figured that he may have instead been listening to too much Beatles music pretending his fist was a silver hammer and he was named Maxwell (WHAT? You didn't name your son after a name well known to electromagic engineers!?!) Personally, I think that level of violence is better (and that of Wile E. Coyote and his equipment from the ACME XXXX (obviously, most of it was not safety approved)) than what kids can see today. Take a look at what there is for video games and the movies and music and... well, I better stop before I fall over backward foaming at the mouth (a line from another comedy group, one that brought us blood spurting out in slow motion)!
Daren A. Nerad EMC Engineer 815.226.6123 -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Phillips [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:15 PM To: Tania Grant Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sometimes product safety just isn't enough I hope you didn't let him watch the news either... he could become a murderer, drunk driver, rapist, embezzler, adulterer, car thief, or politician... or one of those guys who goes surfing in a hurricane. Or - learn by what he saw, not by what he didn't see. With all due respect, Moe Howard Obviously, personal opinions - not those of my employer (as far as I know anyway). At 12:56 PM 12/14/2001, Tania Grant wrote: Gert, You may be technically correct, but I also believe that we should bring up citizens to be prudently knowledgeable about electrical hazards. These are not intuitively obvious. The manufacturer has a responsibility for designing a safe product. The user has a responsibility for using it prudently. The manufacturer also has a responsibility for warning against possible (conceivable) misuse. It is here that the gray area waffles. Would you countenance your daughter, clad in a bikini and barefoot, repeating the same actions as in the picture, while you complacently view this scene from the comforts of a beach chair, beer in hand? By the way; I found the picture very humorous. However, slapstick humor and hazards, especially electrical, do not mix. I would not want to defend this pictorial from any safety perspective. This is a prime candidate for "What's wrong with this picture?" to be analyzed by safety professionals only. PS: Ages ago the neighbors complained that my pre-kindergarten angel son was hitting other kids on their heads with his fist. Those who were brought up on the Three Stooges thought these antics were humorous;-- since I was not brought up like that, I thought they were just gross. I put a stop immediately to my son watching Three Stooges re-runs on the TV, a harmless show from many perspectives. He is now a very civilized adult and does not hit people over the head with his fists. [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: CE-TEST Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:57 PM To: Robert Johnson; [email protected] Subject: RE: Sometimes product safety just isn't enough { Please read this email with more then average sense of humour , and then : THINK !) So, What's Wrong With That, The guy on the picture (see link below) is protected by 2 layers of safety: 1/ Basic Insulation, rated for the mains voltage PLUS transient levels 2/ Grounding , for in case the basic insulation wears out or fails for whatever reason (drops in the pool ?) Many of us on this list are in some way responsible for the safety of their employers products, or even test houses (like me) ! Do we have that much confidence in our work ? Are we somewhere concerned the safety regulations are not strict enough ? Do we, when working with electricity , count for extra layers of safety, such as not standing bare foot on an aluminium ladder, in a swimming pool ? Are we concerned that the safety measures won't suffice for the lifetime of the equipment ? This man is doing what we expect our customers to do: have confidence that products sold comply with essential safety regulations. Regards, Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] <mailto:[email protected]%5DOn> On <mailto:[email protected]%5DOn> Behalf Of Robert Johnson Sent: woensdag 12 december 2001 19:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Sometimes product safety just isn't enough I couldnâEUR(tm)t help passing on this reference to a bit of unforeseeable misuse.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000048.html <http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000048.html> Bob Johnson
