It is not true of 17025 nor is it the way auditors interpret it. An
accredited lab is an accredited lab.
Bob Heller
3M Product Safety, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
Tel: 651- 778-6336
Fax: 651-778-6252
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Michael.Sundstrom@
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05/23/2002 10:59 [email protected]
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Please respond to Subject: RE: Accreditation -
testing ourselves
Michael.Sundstrom
Don't forget the aspect of self testing. Doesn't 17025 have special
provisions / requirements about self testing your own item? I hear third
party testing is always given precedence over self testing data. Is this
true and written in 17025 or just the way the auditors interpret it?
Michael Sundstrom
NOKIA
TCC Dallas / EMC
ofc: (972) 374-1462
cell: (817) 917-5021
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From: ext Clement Dave-LDC009 [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:14 AM
To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Accreditation - testing ourselves
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:25 AM
>An EMC test lab is accredited according to ISO/IEC 17025. They are also
>accredited for many tests as the IEC61000-4-series, EN55022 and many
other.
>We have previously done some EMC pre-testing in this lab and we have
>operated the test equipment ourselves. Now, they won't let us do that with
>reference to their accreditation status. The test lab personnel have to
>operate the test equipment. Does it make sense, is there any restriction
in
>the accreditation ?
There is nothing in ISO 17025 that would prevent a lab from allowing
someone
from coming in and using the equipment. However, if they had not made
provisions in their QA manual for use by non lab personnel they would be in
violation of there own procedures and subject to audit findings by the lab
accrediting body.
Specifically they would need to address; how they were going to ensure that
testing done by non lab personnel would not be represented as lab performed
testing and that test equipment was still in calibration after use by non
lab personnel.
They may be hiding behind the accreditation as a graceful way of stopping a
practice they no longer want to be involved in.
Dave Clement
Motorola Inc.
Global Homologation Engineering
20 Cabot Blvd.
Mansfield, MA 02048
P:508-851-8259
F:508-851-8512
C:508-725-9689
mailto:[email protected]
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