Hi Mike,

I will agree with you in that the IEC801 series is indeed an old series of 
standards. However, these
standards were revised and renumbered into the IEC 1000-4-x series. Afterwhich, 
the IEC renumbered
these standards to be IEC 61000-4-x. In addition, the EN 61000-4-x series was 
created as a European
harmonized set of basic standards from the IEC 61000-4-x series (please note 
that any EN standard
may differ somewhat from the its respective IEC standard). So, to say that the 
EN standards replaced
the IEC 801 standards is incorrect.

With this in mind I still find it curious that EN55024 refers to the IEC 
61000-4-x series instead of
the EN61000-4-x series as normative references. I wonder if  CENELEC chose not 
to modify CISPR 24
any more than they had to. Just curious.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
[email protected]






                                                                                
                                            
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The entire 801 Series is obsolete and replaced by the EN61000-4-X series; 
61000-4-2, 61000-4-3,
61000-4-4 and 61000-4-5.

It sounds like the product standard you have is out of date and needs to be 
revised, if it hasn't
been already, to call out the new standards.

Today, virtually all product standards call for testing to 61000-4-2 (ESD), 
61000-4-3 (RF Radiated),
61000-4-4 (EFT), 61000-4-5 (Surge), 61000-4-6 (RF Conducted) and 61000-4-11 
(Dip and Interrupts).
Additionally, virtually all product standards require emissions testing as 
well. It is possible a
revision of EN50091-2:1995 would not call for surge testing, but more than 
likely, it will. I would
think if surge immunity were to be required for any set of products, UPS's 
would be at the top of
the list..... I'd recommend it whether you're required to do surge testing or 
not. (Be careful, I
sell surge testers, so you better get other opinions!) Good Luck.


Mike Hopkins
Thermo KeyTek




     -----Original Message-----
     From: Sam Wismer [mailto:[email protected]]
     Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:06 AM
     To: EMC Forum
     Subject: EN50091-2:1995



     Hi all,


     I am reviewing EN50091-2:1995 to determine the immunity requirements for 
UPS systems.
     According to the harmonized list, this is the correct version of the 
standard under the EMCD.
     It calls for radiated emissions, IEC 801-2, -3 and -4.  It then says 801-5 
is under
     consideration.  Our customer is requesting 801-5, but based on how I read 
the standard, it is
     not required at this time.  Could that be true?




     Kind Regards,


     Sam Wismer
     Engineering Manager
     ACS, Inc.

     Phone:  (770) 831-8048
     Fax:  (770) 831-8598

     Web:  www.acstestlab.com











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