Hello all,
I thought that if the ground pin is at the bottom it will be the last pin to 
break contact if the plug is pulled out of the wall receptacle?

Michael Sundstrom
 NOKIA 
  TCC Dallas / EMC
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-----Original Message-----
From: ext Jim Eichner [mailto:jim.eich...@xantrex.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:39 PM
To: 'Art Michael'; 'EMC-PSTC - forum'
Subject: RE: Nema 5-15R sockets



Thanks for the reply Art.  I was starting to convince myself that it was
indeed local custom, not code, that determined the orientation.  

I heard another explanation that I find amusing and perhaps practical:  that
with the ground at the bottom it looks too much like a face and children
will be more tempted to play with it, so it should be mounted ground-up!

My fax number is below, and I really appreciate you providing whatever
dimensions you can.  Note that I am interested in the blade and ground pin
dimensions of the male plug, not the female socket, please.

Thanks,

Jim Eichner, P.Eng.
Manager, Engineering Services
Xantrex Technology Inc.
Mobile Power
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-----Original Message-----
From: Art Michael [mailto:amich...@connix.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:59 AM
To: Jim Eichner
Cc: 'EMC-PSTC - forum'
Subject: Re: Nema 5-15R sockets


Hello Jim,

I don't believe the orientation of the U-ground pin is declared anyplace
in the NEC. When I recently approached my local AHJ with this question he
related that it is a matter of custom (locality dependent). In this area,
central Connecticut, the custom is: 

For commercial/industrial applications, U-Ground topmost
For household wiring, U-Ground towards the bottom

The rationale offered for the U-Ground topmost; if the plug partially
separates from the outlet, anything falling into the opening between the
plug and the outlet will first encounter the grounding pin. (seems to me
that argument holds whether the use is commercial/industrial or
household).

Re dimensions of the outlet; send me your fax # and I'll fax you the
dimensions.

Regards, Art Michael


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On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Jim Eichner wrote:

> 
> A couple of questions about our standard North American 120Vac socket:
> 
> 1. Orientation:  We have lots of people in the office here on both sides
of
> this one, and I can't find a normative reference in the CEC or the NEC.
> Which is the correct way "up" when installing a socket on a wall - ground
> pin above the L and N blades, or L and N above the ground?  What is the
code
> reference for this requirement, or is there none?
> 
> 2. Dimensions:  Can anybody share the spec's for the dimensions, with
> tolerances, of the line, neutral, and ground blades for this
configuration?
> I'm sure it's in the UL and CSA standards but I don't want to spend
hundreds
> of $ for a one-time question.  We have no on-going need for these
standards!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> Regards, 
> Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
> Manager, Engineering Services 
> Xantrex Technology Inc. 
> Mobile Power
> web: www.xantrex.com <http://www.xantrex.com> 
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