John, You state:
"the added cost in our case is the fact that we include a copy of the DoC with every product. Not required I know but done here as a matter of policy this adds a couple of pennies to each product which adds up in the long run....." May I also recommend to the folks out there that in addition to CE Marking the products, the shipping packages also be marked with the CE Mark and the DoC placed within the shipping paperwork. I had many horrified customers whose shipments were delayed due to opening of the packages and customs inspectors looking for the DoCs (which sometimes were not included). Shipping to France was a major problem for many of these customers. It seems that the French customs are the most problematic! This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com -----Original Message----- From: Tyra, John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:03 PM To: 'John Woodgate'; [email protected] Subject: RE: CE Marking for Passive speakers I wish to thank everyone for taking the time to consider my questions. There were a many good points brought up and it gave me some new issues to consider, i.e. immunity testing for intense. As I expected the opinion was split and I have to admit that I am still not convinced that CE Marking is required for these type of products. In order to avoid the possibility of being questioned upon import into the EU I am going to recommend that we CE Mark our products until told otherwise and continue to pursue further clarification from the authorities. I will be happy to share any info I receive. John, the added cost in our case is the fact that we include a copy of the DoC with every product. Not required I know but done here as a matter of policy this adds a couple of pennies to each product which adds up in the long run..... Best regards, John -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CE Marking for Passive speakers I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian <[email protected]> wrote (in <E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA306018190AE@EXC_EAS01>) about 'CE Marking for Passive speakers' on Thu, 19 Sep 2002: >By "the wider issue" I was referring to your assertion that "The EMC >Guidelines document explains that having no active components is NOT grounds >for exemption from the EMC Directive." >If this were the case then it would have far reaching implications for many >industries since all "Electromagnetically Benign" equipment might require >testing. >Furthermore I imagine this would have legal implications for the UK >Government appointed Competent Body which advised my company that benign >equipment is exempt. This Competent Body helped us compile a list of >products within our range to which this exclusion applied. 'Benign' is NOT the same as 'passive', which is what was asserted. A torch/flashlight with an incandescent lamp is benign, because it is inconceivable that it would either emit anything or suffer from lack of immunity. But even just a *junction box* for high-speed data cable can both emit stuff and let external disturbances into the cabling. I showed how a loudspeaker can both emit and be disturbed by and external emission. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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