Forwarded for Patty Knudsen <[email protected]>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: TUV NRTL
   Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:11:12 -0600
   From: "Patricia Knudsen (EWU)" <[email protected]>
     To: "'Doug McKean'" <[email protected]>,EMC-PSTC Discussion
         Group<[email protected]>



There is a difference between the TUVs and UL's branch offices.  The
TUVs are all different companies, not franchises of the same company.
TUV Rheinland is a completely different entity than TUV Product Service
or TUV America.  It's more like the relationship between UL, ETL, MET,
FM, CSA, etc.  All are NRTLs but different companies.

Patty Knudsen
(former TUV-R employee)
Ericsson Wireless Communications
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug McKean [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:45 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Re: TUV NRTL


It's been my understanding that the various branches of
TUV reside and oversee product safety in specific regions
within Germany.  And that being in a sense franchises,
they compete directly with each other outside of Germany.

It's also been my understanding that in a similar way
though more subtle, the various branches of UL within
the US also compete with each other. In other words,
even though the Santa Clara facility is conviently right
down the road from me, I could send product off to
Melville. Any profits made by Melville aren't really
benefited by Santa Clara.

The difference between TUV and UL is that in some
cases, and I'm going out on a limb, TUV Rheinland
might not accept results from TUV Product Services
although that would have to be some extreme case
IMO.  UL branches on the other hand accept each
others results.

Corrections anyone?

- Doug McKean


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