Hi Koh,

- Compliance to "essential requirements" from the EMCD is mandatory
- The European Commission has defined a list of phenomena to consider for
this.
- This list is well covered by the Generic Standards + harmonic and flicker
tests.
- Product standards ( 55020 and 55013 ) also comply to the phenomena to be
tested.
- Testing to standards is not mandatory.
- An EMC assessment is.
- A declaration of conformity is also mandatory stating compliance with
appropriate standards.
- A DoC is a legal document defining your liability towards what is written
on it.

The standards you mentioned are harmonized and look appropriate for your
product, and cover by their tests the list of phenomena define by the EC.
Now  these standards are to be mentioned on your Declaration, otherwise you
need a third
party (Notified Body) to do the assessment for you by direct reference to
essential requirements.


Radiated immunity tests allow you to define your own performance criteria
(degradation of performance) within certain limits. This allows for passing
with lousy products.
That reasoning made your customer believe testing to immunity is redundant.
However

Harmonic current tests and flicker tests are not to be considered
voluntarily.


If selling the product in Europe , your REP (mandatory) will have to bear
responsibility
for the DoC (he needs to sign with or alone). Using the CE-mark requires a
legal body keeping the DoC on European Soil.  Find one who will and you will
probably not get catched.

You provide bad service however to your customers, and any competitor might
complain
to the authorities, or your product may just be verified in a routine check.

Your Rep will then have to pay for withdrawal of the product and will be go
to court.

Again, the risk is not that high, but if you want to take it ?????


Gert Gremmen








-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Koh
Sent: dinsdag 5 februari 2002 16:22
To: EMC-PSTC
Subject: Voluntary EN standards



Hi group,
My company had just OEM a speaker product from another company, I had
request them to provide the following EMI/EMC test report.
EN55013, EN55020
EN61000-3-2, EN61000-3-3
The speaker is mains connected/powered.

They only provided EN55013 report and reply as below regarding the other
standards.

"The standards mentioned (EN55020/A12/A13/14, EN61000-3-2, and
EN61000-3-3)
are for Immunity and Line Harmonics, which as per the standards are not
mandatory.  These tests currently fall into the voluntary category (in
fact
for the Immunity test the pass criteria is defined by the submitter)
Therefore the speaker is not required and was not submitted for testing
to these standards."

Is this true?
Could anyone able to give some advice.

If they provide the DofC to us stating only EN55013 and safety
(EN60065), can we sell the product in Europe? What possible problem will
we encounter?

Regards
Koh



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