While a mouse cannot function by itself, as it needs to be connected to something, it is a complete product in the sense that it should comply with the Safety and EMC standards and does not require any special safety related install or usage instructions. It therefore is able to bear the GS Mark...This is similar to a mains connected printer or monitor which cannot function until connected to a driver device but may be compliant with the LVD and EMC Directives and specified standards and therefore is eligible for a GS Mark............................................Again I am going back to my TUV days with this so things could have changed in the last two years.....................I am new to the UL process but sounds like has a different slant when it comes to what is considered a finished product and what is a component............................. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Question regarding something slightly unusual ...
Well that process doesn't seem to work that well either. I have a mouse and keyboard that both have a UL Recognition mark. The mouse has a GS mark and the keyboard has a Bauart mark. Of course, the reason the keyboard has the Bauart mark rather than the GS mark is that it does not comply with the GS requirements for a German keyboard. But that does not explain the marks on the mouse. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -----Original Message----- From: Clement Dave-LDC009 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:00 PM To: '[email protected]'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... TUV does have a mechanism, they issues the GS mark for products and the Bauart mark for components. Dave Clement Motorola Inc. Test Lab Services Homologation Engineering 20 Cabot Blvd. Mansfield, MA 02048 P:508-851-8259 F:508-851-8512 C:508-725-9689 mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://www.motorola.com/globalcompliance/ <http://www.motorola.com/globalcompliance/> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... >From Doug McKean: >>>>>>>>In 20 years, I've never seen this before but that's not saying much. Why would a mfr get a UL recognition approval for a commercial ITE style single phase 155-230vac computer style product but for that same product get the TUV "GS" mark? Mfr is a stateside company. Product to be used in restricted areas with trained personnel only. But, one that essentially anyone could buy. What's the advantage of getting such a mixed set of approvals? <<<<<<<<<<<< It's not really a mixed set of approvals. UL must have considered the device to be incomplete in some way (does it have an enclosure?), therefore they Recognized it as a component as opposed to Listing it as a finished product. The GS Mark has no mechanism for delineating between components and finished products - both can receive GS approval. Hence the TUV GS mark. That's my guess, based on the limited information you gave. Greg Galluccio www.productapprovals.com ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
