Peter

I think that your question is answered quite clearly in the second paragraph
that I quoted from the guidelines, where it states:
'Following discussions with Member States the Commission has taken the
position that the term "designed for use with a voltage range" shall be
understood at equipment having either a rated input voltage or a rated
output
voltage inside this voltage range.'

Therefore the 12V to 120V (or 230V for Europe) device described in your
example is quite clearly within the scope of the LVD - and, Yes, similar
devices are available in Europe. For example, see the illustration of a
similar device for sale on the RS Components Website in the UK at
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/browse/Module.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1646810601.10
34183756@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchadcghdjlhhmcfngcfkmdgkldfhk.0&stockNo=597475&lo
gText=uk520&logType=103&prmstocknum=597475&logText=uk520&logType=103

This has a UK BS1363 13A socket and carries a CE Mark - but under what
Directive, or Directives, I do not know as I do not have the DoC. In fact it
might well include the EMC Directive as it could be used outside of a
vehicle and directly from a 12V automobile battery (a good way to run your
central heating timer and boiler controls when there is a mains power cut!)

The aim of the LVD is to ensure protection of persons (and domestic
animals!), and the shock and fire hazards from such a device are just at
least as high as a unit where the equipment is supplied at 230V and has a
230V convenience outlet - so application of the LVD (and possibly the EMCD)
is entirely appropriate.

Regards

John Allen
Technical Consultant
Electromagnetics, Safety and Reliability Group
ERA Technology Ltd
Cleeve Rd
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Surrey KT22 7SA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 09 October 2002 15:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Twisting the LVD (was: RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark)



John -

The case of internal use of elevated voltages (as in a lap
top computer screen backlight) is clearly addressed by the
interpretation.

To test the consistency of the interpretation, imagine a
product with a supply voltage below the limits in the LVD,
where the LVD would not apply to that product.  That product
then performs power transformation (or conversion) and, in
turn, supplies other equipment (whether ancillary to the
equipment performing the conversion or not) at voltages
within the scope of the LVD, making the LVD applicable to
the latter product.

Does the term "supply" in reference to the aforementioned
interpretation apply only to the energy sinking port of
equipment or to all equipment ports, whether sinking or
sourcing electrical energy?

Example: A product available in the US (and possibly in
Europe) is a power inverter that can supply household
appliances using an automobile battery as its source.  Handy
for weekend campers that prefer to bring a few conveniences
along with them.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
[email protected]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Woodgate
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark
>
> Although the wording of the LVD implies that
> the voltage limits
> apply to internally-generated voltages, there is
> now an official
> 'interpretation' that they apply only to supply voltages.
> --
> Regards, John Woodgate



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