This discussion is getting astray from the content
requirements of the list.  If, after this posting, anyone
wishes to continue this discussion, I invite you to take it
off the list.  I'd be pleased to participate.

Still not quite correct, John, but I can see how an outsider
might consider it semantical.  The arrangement is bottom-up,
rather than delegated from the top down.  In fighting occurs
when the higher level of government oversteps its bounds.
It's kind of like, "you're not the boss of me," that we
bloody colonists told Mother.

As to delegation, the US Constitution spells out the
authority of the federal government and everything else is
left to the state and local governments.  Each state has a
similar constitution that more or less does the same thing
with county and municipal governments.  For instance, the
Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution makes it clear that
whatever authority is not explicitly given to the federal
government is reserved to the states (I suppose this could
be interpreted as delegation, but delegation implies "you
will do this," whereas the Constitution says, "we're not
going to do that, but you can if you want to.").

Where this gets muddled is when the Hamiltonians get a wild
hair that "there oughtta be a law about this and that," and
in the process infringe on states rights or individual
rights of the citizenry.  Sometimes by unfunded mandate,
sometimes by directly trying to increase the centralization
of government, sometimes by blatant usurpation.  Usurpation
most often occurs by the Executive Branch departments'
issuing edicts from their lesser, included bodies that,
where through the "necessary and proper" clause of the
Constitution, Congress has given their regulations "the
power of law."


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
[email protected]

> From: John Woodgate
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:04 PM
>
> OK, this is a semantic issue. IMHO, 'delegation'
> is the appropriate word
> if there is a written law that prescribes how
> authority is allocated.
> If, OTOH, it is a situation like English 'common
> law', which is not
> necessarily written as a statute but stems from
> tradition and case law,
> then 'supersession' may be the better word. I
> *think* that the autonomy
> of the US states is of that nature, the federal
> Constitution simply
> affirming what was already established.
> --
> Regards, John Woodgate



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