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If the load in question is a resistance heating load, I can see two ways
around the problem:

1. Use a circuit much like a triac light dimmer. Make sure the control is
smooth enough that the flicker standard is met - no sudden changes in
current. Problem here is power line harmonic generation that may violate
power line harmonic standards and even radiated emissions standards.

2. Run the load from a switching power supply. Not much of a power supply
is needed - rectify the AC, follow with the switching with multiple switch
cycles per half-cycle of mains power, no filtering (except for EMC)
necessary. Use control similar to that used on harmonic corrected/power
factor corrected power supply to minimize harmonic generation. Add
sufficient EMC filtering to prevent the switching frequency from showing up
on the mains or radiating. Control heater power smoothly to meet the
flicker standard.

Don Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, WA





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         Dear  all,                                                [IMAGE] 
                                                                           
         we have a  customer designing and manufacturing                   
        Pulse Width Modulation power  controllers. These are               
        used in the heating & ventilation industry ,  within               
        factories and hotels etc. due to the nature of the                 
        design switching  full power on and off between 2 and              
        30 times a minute it fails flicker  EN61000-3-3.                   
        Looking at the std and doing the maths on a 2kw load,              
        it  needs to be switching only once a minute to meet               
        flicker requirements.  Problem with this is only                   
        switching once a minute the control is lost                        
                                                                           
         My  question is that PWM products obviously cannot                
        meet the flicker std, but  what experience do other                
        labs have of this. we found a micro from a co in                   
        Sweden which sits in front of the mains input and                  
        affectively fools the  harmonics tester into, but this             
        is both expensive and not really a  solution.                      
                                                                           
         What have  other labs found, is there a solution, as              
        flicker std only addresses  products up to 16A the                 
        high power controllers are ok, but they sell many                  
        which run at 1.5kVA. Or do manf just 'ignore' the                  
        flicker requirements                                               
                                                                           
         any  feedback would be much appreciated.                          
                                                                           
         rgds,                                                             
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                Jules                                                  
   
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
        Julian  Jones                                                      
        Hursley EMC  Services                                              
        Brickfield Lane                                                    
        Chandlers Ford, EASTLEIGH                                          
        Hampshire,  SO53 4DP                                               
        Tel: 023 8027 1111                                                 
        Fax: 023 8027 1144                                                 
        [email protected]                                            
        www.hursley-emc.co.uk                                              
                                                                           
                                                                           




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Title: Re: flicker results with PWM circuits


If the load in question is a resistance heating load, I can see two ways
around the problem:

1. Use a circuit much like a triac light dimmer. Make sure the control is
smooth enough that the flicker standard is met - no sudden changes in
current. Problem here is power line harmonic generation that may violate
power line harmonic standards and even radiated emissions standards.

2. Run the load from a switching power supply. Not much of a power supply
is needed - rectify the AC, follow with the switching with multiple switch
cycles per half-cycle of mains power, no filtering (except for EMC)
necessary. Use control similar to that used on harmonic corrected/power
factor corrected power supply to minimize harmonic generation. Add
sufficient EMC filtering to prevent the switching frequency from showing up
on the mains or radiating. Control heater power smoothly to meet the
flicker standard.

Don Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, WA





jules <[email protected]>@majordomo.ieee.org on 02/18/2003 06:42:47
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         Dear  all,                                                [IMAGE]
                                                                          
         we have a  customer designing and manufacturing                  
        Pulse Width Modulation power  controllers. These are              
        used in the heating & ventilation industry ,  within              
        factories and hotels etc. due to the nature of the                
        design switching  full power on and off between 2 and             
        30 times a minute it fails flicker  EN61000-3-3.                  
        Looking at the std and doing the maths on a 2kw load,             
        it  needs to be switching only once a minute to meet              
        flicker requirements.  Problem with this is only                  
        switching once a minute the control is lost                       
                                                                          
         My  question is that PWM products obviously cannot               
        meet the flicker std, but  what experience do other               
        labs have of this. we found a micro from a co in                  
        Sweden which sits in front of the mains input and                 
        affectively fools the  harmonics tester into, but this            
        is both expensive and not really a  solution.                     
                                                                          
         What have  other labs found, is there a solution, as             
        flicker std only addresses  products up to 16A the                
        high power controllers are ok, but they sell many                 
        which run at 1.5kVA. Or do manf just 'ignore' the                 
        flicker requirements                                              
                                                                          
         any  feedback would be much appreciated.                         
                                                                          
         rgds,                                                            
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                Jules                                                     
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
        Julian  Jones                                                     
        Hursley EMC  Services                                             
        Brickfield Lane                                                   
        Chandlers Ford, EASTLEIGH                                         
        Hampshire,  SO53 4DP                                              
        Tel: 023 8027 1111                                                
        Fax: 023 8027 1144                                                
        [email protected]                                           
        www.hursley-emc.co.uk                                             
                                                                          
                                                                          




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