When the missile launched it struck another aircraft, the pilot was John
Mccain, now Senator John McCain.
 
Bill
 

From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:37 PM
To: boconn...@t-yuden.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-special ists
 
It is interesting, nonetheless, to note that the disaster occurred in July
1967, and in September of that year, MIL-E-6051C, EMC Requirements, Systems,
was updated to the "D" revision, which for the first time required 20 dB
safety margin demonstrations for EEDs.  Coincidence?  Perhaps...

Ken Javor


on 3/27/03 1:20 PM, boconn...@t-yuden.com at boconn...@t-yuden.com wrote:

Sir 

I must concur with Mr Woodgate. This particular instance in (very) infamous in
the U.S. Navy & USMC, but mostly for shipboard fire-fighting instruction and
damage control protocol. The flight-deck videos of this are still shown to
students of the fire-fighting school for carrier crew. 

The aircraft in question was stationary in the flight deck; it was not in the
landing phase. The failure mode was a faulty connector. One of the major
changes invoked by this disaster was the  extensiion/formalization of
enviromental stress testing (shock. vibration, & thermal). EMC was not, IMO,
considered part of the root cause. 

R/S, 
Brian 

-----Original Message----- 
From: King, Richard 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:18 AM 
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
Subject: RE: Help wanted with succinct subject description for 
non-special ists 

I should reiterate from my original message that the text I posted is the 
introduction to an article, not a complete article. 

The example was included to engage the reader from the start; demonstrate 
that electromagnetic compatibility between systems is a real-world issue; 
and show that a lack of EMC can have severe consequences. It highlights the 
importance of compatibility between systems in their operating environment, 
not the importance of compliance with standards in a laboratory, which I 
agree is often a separate matter. Any other examples that illustrate these 
points would be gratefully received. 

Best regards, 

Richard King 
Systems Engineer 
Thales Communications UK 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: John Woodgate [SMTP:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:54 AM 
> To:   emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
> Subject:      Help wanted with succinct subject description for 
> non-special ists 
> 
> >In 1967 off the coast of Vietnam, a jet landing on the aircraft carrier 
> >U.S.S. Forrestal was briefly illuminated by carrier-based radar. This is 
> >quite a normal event, however the energy from the radar caused a stray 
> >electrical signal to be sent to the jet weapon systems. The result was an 
> >uncommanded release of munitions that struck a fully armed and fuelled 
> >fighter on deck. The subsequent explosions killed 134 sailors and caused 
> >severe damage to the carrier and aircraft. 
> 
> This is an appallingly bad example, insofar as it was caused by a 
> **fault condition**. EMC standards, and the testing itself, do not take 
> fault conditions into account. There is a separate subject 'EMC and 
> functional safety', which is incredibly complicated. If you just think 
> about it for a while, you will see why. 
> 
> Don't let your audience think that EMI occurs only when source or victim 
> is faulty. EMI occurs when both would be working perfectly normally if 
> the EMI were not present. 
> -- 
> Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. 


-- 

Ken Javor
EMC Compliance
Huntsville, Alabama
256/650-5261

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