Let me offer a possible explanation from my limited knowedge of vacuum
tubes and mercury vapor rectifiers in particular.

In a mercury vapor rectifier, the voltage drop is fairly constant (10 to 15
volts) no matter what the current. The reason is that it takes an electron
of 10 to 15 eV to ionize the mercury atoms. The positively charged mercury
atoms then head towards the (negative) cathode, neutralizing the space
charge, making many more electrons immediatly available for conduction.

My guess is that something similar is happenning at the relay contacts -
the electron flow is space charge limited, the contact material that is
released by localized heating is then ionized (albeit by higher eV
electrons than with mercury, due to the properties of the contact
material), the space charge is neutralized by the ions, and constant
voltage conduction is sustained.

Don Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, WA





"Pommerenke, David" <[email protected]>@majordomo.ieee.org on 05/15/2003
04:59:35 AM

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If anyone knows a theory why there is about 25 V drop for a small distance,
medium current spark gap, please let me know.

David Pommerenke
University Missouri Rolla

 -----Original Message-----
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 Sent: Wed 5/14/2003 5:38 PM
 To: Pommerenke, David; [email protected]; [email protected]
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 David,

 thanks for the great information! This is the theory we're subscribing to.
 The arc mechanism takes place at the negative electrode. I just tested a
 mercury wetted coaxial relay, from 0 to 500 volts and it exhibits a 10
 volt drop across the arc. It is not polarity sensitive, which surprised me
 a bit. I expected a difference between electron emission from the reed
 (tungsten?) and from the mercury pool. I guess that in this case the
 mercury arc dominates things. I'll see what happens if I heat the relay to
 raise the mercury pressure and ion mobility.

 I will order the SF-6 filled relay that you recommend and give it a try. I
 might experiment with contacts immersed in FC-40. The runt pulses are not
 a show stopper but are an annoyance.

     Dave Cuthbert
     Micron Technology

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Pommerenke, David [mailto:[email protected]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 3:48 PM
 To: [email protected]; [email protected]
 Subject: RE: HV relay


 Dear Dave,

 You are working on a difficult issue.

 Every HV relay will breakdown before the contacts touch. The reason is
 as follows:
    When the contacts come closer the surface field strength
    Increases. The field strength will increase so much, such
    that the field emission current reaches current densities
    sufficient to melt the surface material. This melting
    surface material will create a conductive path. The process
    is called Explosive Electron Emission and takes place
    in Vacuum and in gas filled relays.

    Now there are some particularities for gas filled relays.
    i the pressure of the gas is not that high, the field
    eission or other processes might initiate a gas breakdown.

    At least for high pressure relays and for Vacuum relays,
    nrmally the breakdown is caused by surface explosions.

 Now, after the initial breakdown and some current the arc might
 extinguish again. This will show up as "bouncing" in the current pulse
 and times of 50 to a few hundred nanoseconds are typically. There are
 many influencing factors, some of them are:
    - Speed of approach of the electrodes
    - External current
    - Gas filling
    - Surface materials

 After the contact meet, the contacts might bounce, leading to
 interruptions or changes in the current in the us or ms range.

 Regarding the "Vacuum breakdown strength". There is no
 'Vacuum breakdown", it is all a surface process.

 In general, I suggest to think about using N2-SF6 filled relays. The
 HC-5 from Kilovac is a good choice up to about 10 kV, if mounted in
 epoxy. You can reduce the drive current or shape the drive current to
 reduce the problem of bouncing.

 David Pommerenke
 University Missouri Rolla


 -----Original Message-----
 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:09 AM
 To: [email protected]
 Subject: HV relay


 I'm designing some ESD test equipment for in-house use and need some
 suggestions on relays. I am experimenting with a 5 kV COTO vacuum relay
 and notice that I get some "runt" pulses. It appears that the contacts
 arc before they touch and then the arc extinguishes after 50 ns and then
 reignites. About half the time it the contacts appear to make physical
 contact before arcing. If I remember correctly, the strength of a hard
 vacuum is 200 kV/cm. So, at 5 kV the contacts can arc when they are 25
 microns apart (actually further apart due to field enhancement). Are
 there any vacuum relays that do not exhibit runt pulses?

     Dave Cuthbert
     Micron Technology



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