You always need to apply two heads --- the engineering head says,"Good
engineering practice says you should test for ESD", but the compliance head
only needs to meet the requirement of the standard, which clearly exempts
points and ports NOT accessible by an OPERATOR.

Points and ports accessible for maintenace, installation and service need
not be tested (compliance head). Points/ports that ARE accessible by the
operator can be exempted by labeling -- i.e., ESD sensitive ports such as
scope vertical amp inputs, RF antenna inputs, etc... Also specifically
exempted from compliance to 61000-4-2 are inside battery compartments, which
although accessed by the operator, are rarely accessed and when they do get
into the battery compartment, the unit is inoperative....





Best Regards,

Michael Hopkins
Manager, EMC Technologies
Thermo Electron
Control Technology Division
EMC & ESD Simulation Solutions
One Lowell Research Center
Lowell, MA 01852
Tel: +1 978 275 0800 ext. 334
Fax: +1 978 275 0850
[email protected]

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: ESD - not applicable ?








If installation is normal usage, then should all those bare boards
installed in PCs should be tested for ESD resistance in their bare state?

Or is the distinction between a product and a component that goes into a
product (though some may argue that, for example, a modem board is a
product)?

But I certainly agree that a product never handled by end users should
still be ESD resistant to successfully make it through the installation
process (even if not required).

Don Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, WA  USA



                                                                           
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And installation is normal usage.  Now, it would be interesting to know
just what type of product we’re talking about.

Ghery Pettit
Intel Corporation



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: ESD - not applicable ?

Clause 8.3.1 of EN 61000-4-2 says "The static electricity discharges shall
be applied only to such points and surfaces of the EUT which are acessible
to personnel during normal usage."  And it also says "The application of
discharges to any point of the equipment which is assessible only for
maintenance purposes, excluding customer's maintenance, is not allowed
unless different prescription is given in the dedicated product
specification."

So, unless the product or family spec says otherwise, no testing is
required if a product is touched only during maintenance other than
customer maintenance.



Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:[email protected]]
      Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:59 PM
      To: [email protected]; [email protected]
      Subject: RE: ESD - not applicable ?
      Amund,

      CISPR 24 (and EN 55024) provides reasons to not perform various
      tests, but ESD doesn’t have any of these “outs”.  I think you are
      entirely correct in wanting the test done.  Like you, I have seen
      this to be one of the more applicable immunity tests (along with
      surge) and we test to higher levels, too.

      Did the lab explain how the equipment would be installed, if not
      touched by human hands?

      Ghery S. Pettit
      Intel Corporation


      -----Original Message-----
      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
      Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:29 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: ESD - not applicable ?

      ESD has always been in my view, one of the most applicable EMC tests
      . We tests all our products with higher levels than stated in the
      standards.

      Last week I visited a local test lab and they told me that " .....
      you do not need to ESD test your new equipment because it will not be
      operated (no keys to press) by humans or not accessible for humans
      (installed minimum 2.5m above the floor level) .....". Well, I was a
      bit surprised, because you can easily climb up to it and during
      maintenance you may touch it.

      So, what's your interpretation for ESD and situation where it is not
      applicable?  We'll carry out the ESD test anyway, because I have no
      intention to discuss this case with a number of world-wide
      certification bodies. 20 minutes testing and all parts are satisfied
      ....... if it pass .....


      Best regards
      Amund Westin, Oslo / Norway



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