Darrell,
 
I attribute this to triboelectric charging and find it quite irritating. I
have estimated that I can charge to 25 kV when exiting my vehicle (wool pants
and fabric seat). To avoid this I have to hold onto a bare metal part of the
door frame. Very awkward procedure. Or, I can exit the vehicle carefully and
discharge to the door frame through a key held in my hand (not nearly as bad
as a bare finger discharge). I discharged through my cell phone once and it
shut down.
 
Now, how about if one of you automotive guys mandates static dissipative
steering wheels? Then one merely has to hold onto the steering wheel while
exiting to maintain oneself and the vehicle at the same potential. Or
non-triboelectric fabric seats?  
 
   Dave Cuthbert
   Micron Technology

From: Locke, Darrell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:37 PM
To: Mike Hopkins
Cc: EMC-PSTC List
Subject: RE: Automotive ESD



Thanks to all who answered.  The levels appear higher and this correlates to
my own experience.  I have noticed particularly in low humidity I really get
some zaps when exiting my vehicle.  Does anyone know why?  An earlier response
referred to being surrounded by metal results in greater capacitance.

 

Thanks

 

Darrell Locke

Advanced Input Devices

 


From: Mike Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:51 PM
To: Locke, Darrell
Subject: RE: Automotive ESD

 

There are several -- Ford, Chrysler, GM and others all have thier own -- then
there is ISO, which is evolving towards the IEC 61000-4-2 model.

 

Many require tests to 20kV and use discharge networks consisting of 300pf/5k,
330pf/2k and 150pf/2k among others.

 

Some standards are: 

SAE J1113a, current in revision

Chrysler PF 936B

Ford ES-XW7T-1A278-AB EMC Requirements Overview

ISO 7637-X

 

And there are many more..... Hope this is helpful.

 

Best Regards, 

Michael Hopkins 
Manager, EMC Technologies 
Thermo Electron 
Control Technology Division 
EMC & ESD Simulation Solutions 
One Lowell Research Center 
Lowell, MA 01852 
Tel: +1 978 275 0800 ext. 334 
Fax: +1 978 275 0850 
[email protected] 

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From: Locke, Darrell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:19 PM
To: EMC-PSTC List
Subject: Automotive ESD

Group,

 

Does anyone know the correct standard(s) for testing automotive ESD?  Are
these higher levels than Human Body ESD?

 

Thanks

 

Darrell Locke

Advanced Input Devices


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