John et al. Thanks for your observations. If I understand the new methodology then I (a mnaufacturer) can market as a SYSTEM two pieces of hardware that are independently certified without a retest?
Don't I become a systems integrator? In the "old" days the systems integrator was responsible for the EMC profile. Is that still the case? Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.gra...@echostar.com; Email Alternate: chasgra...@ieee.org From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:19 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Does anyone system test PCs anymore? - Q on new procedures I read in !emc-pstc that Cortland Richmond <72146....@compuserve.com> wrote (in <200311131630_mc3-1-5a13-7...@compuserve.com>) about 'Does anyone system test PCs anymore? - Q on new procedures' on Thu, 13 Nov 2003: >Can a monitor purchased from an OEM have a company label slapped on it >and sold WITHOUT the company testing it in a system? << For Europe, there is no legal compulsion to test: the legal position is that the DOC must be true. > >Looks like it! > >One of my EMI horror stories concerns a monitor I found could make a >computer NEXT to it, not even turned on, exceed the Part 15 conducted >emission limit. It had an FCC ID, too. Good thing we tested. Nowadays, >though, if it comes with a DoC, you need not test it. Telling us here won't have any effect. If you are concerned about violations, tell the regulatory authority. > >Oversimplifying only a little, it looks like one can now market a >computer system without testing ANY of its components as long as the >parts of it were once tested, somewhere, at labs the FCC could believe. Wouldn't wash in Europe. CE + CE != CE expect in a few specific cases, such as custom control boards for electrical machines. > >I see a national computer chain is selling computers with plastic >covers >so you can see what you paid for. Hear it, too, no doubt. OTOH, some reputable IT manufacturers are marketing desktop computers not in a complete conducting enclosure, so presumably it is possible to meet emission and immunity limits without one. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
