Hi Jan 

My rig is a slow control-loop DC source (settings from 41.2 to 64.5V,
depending on t/c type and wire gauge/length) into a RC net (two large caps),
that upon start of discharge, open a mercury switch between source and caps.
The welding "electrode" is an Al block.

I was not able to get consistent results using a C block. What is your set-up
? 

Brian 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mobers Jan (ST-VS/ENG1) [ mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:35 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: thermocouples 

Hello Brian, 

You mentioned that you welding the thermocouples by yourself. Please can you
explain how do you do welding the thermocouples. 

I do this with a DC loaded Capacitor and a carbon bar. 

Best Regards 
Jan Mobers 

 -----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] [
mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell 
Sent: 2004 apr 28 15:09 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: thermocouples 

An error from IEEE, so try again. 
Empirical measurements using type T and K thermocouples, welded in inert noble
(argon) gas, as read by an HP 34970, and compared to thermocouple junctions
formed by mechanical twist, solder, and ambient-air weld; and buried in
separate wells, approx 1cm depth x 2.1mm width, in an extruded Al bar, where
temperature dwells were at -10 and +75 C, at 28% RH, each dwell period = 2.5
hours.

For the initial 28 hours of operations, peak diff, between all thermocouples
was 0.7C, after which the twisted t/c junctions became erratic. The experiment
ran for approx 100 hrs. If the twisted t/c junctions are ignored, peak diff
for the duration of the test was 0.9C, which resulted from a difference in
response time between the soldered and welded thermocouples, between dwells.

And because I weld a fresh set of thermocouples for each series of product
safety Type Tests, I do not consider oxidation to contribute to error, and I
do not consider it in my uncertainty calcs. I cannot justify the time and
expense of welding in argon envelope; but I do attempt to perform precise and
consistent welds.

luck, 
Brian 


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