Brian, As far as I know, there is no requirement by OSHA or any other agency that NRTL's accept each other's FUS data or even each other's initial product-testing data. I worked for a US NRTL mid-1998 through early-2001 and never heard of any such regulation. I was told that there was one standard where we (meaning the NRTL) had to accept data from another NRTL because that was part of the agreement for it being a bi-national standard. However, (1) I did not work in the group that dealt with that standard so my information could be incorrect, and (2) that NRTL has since issued a new edition to that standard, so even if my information was correct at one time it may be incorrect now.
In the 2-1/2 years I worked there, that was the ONLY time I ever heard mention of ANY NRTL being REQUIRED to accept the data from another NRTL. Generally, data >from any other NRTLs was not accepted. I'm not saying I agree with that policy, but that was what the policy was. If there are any requirements for NRTLs to accept each other's data or FUS inspections, I would be very interested to know about it. What I have seen happen to a colleague recently is that in the case of UL and CSA, UL _is_ willing to accept CSA's test data on a component, but only for the Canadian-UL part of the Listing done to the CSA standard, not the US-UL part of the Listing done to the UL standard, _and_ my colleague has to get the data from the component vendors, the UL engineer cannot call up CSA. Right now my colleague is having problems finding anyone at any of the vendors he is using who even knows what CSA is, let alone is willing to send test data from the initial CSA component test report. But it is either that or pay for the components to be retested by UL. Best of luck, -Camille Good --- Brian O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote: > Good People > > Currently, my employer is attempting to go with a > single safety agency as > both NCB and NRTL. We submitted a "test case" > project, but a customer is > having problems because the (different) NRTL that > the end-item was submitted > to will not accept components recognized by the NRTL > (that provided > component-level recognition) because "their > follow-up service is not > adequate". > > In the U.S., OSHA, (an agency of the federal > government) confers NRTL > status; so what is the basis of one NRTL not > allowing the use of components > that were certified by another NRTL in the > end-product that is being > evaluated ? > > The evaluating engineer required our customer to > perform additional testing > and enter construction data into the FUS report, on > a component that the > customer does not manufactur. The engineer > evaluating the end-use product > did not say that the test reports or construction > data in component's CB > report and FUS report were not adequate, or that the > data was incomplete. > The re-evaluation and additional test and data > requirements were based on > the fact that the agency that performed the > evaluation does not have > "adequate" FUS audits. (And I personally have not > noticed any significant > differences for the three agencies that audit my > factories.) > > I still do business with both of these agencies, and > want to remain on good > terms with both; but I am growing weary with NRTL > and NCB "wars". I > understand that the IECEE requires all NCBs to use > each other's CB reports. > Is there and equivalent requirement by OSHA that all > NRTLs use others' FUS > reports ? > > luck, > Brian > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
