Don' forget the other exclusion: <5nW of power. Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: [email protected]; Email Alternate: [email protected]
From: Wan Juang Foo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: excluded from FCC and where did they wrote it? RE: Clocks and calculators Dear all , (I think I am opening a can of worms ... ) The earlier thread get me thinking about those items that are excluded (from FCC testing and now DOC) even if it "...generated and uses timing pulses at a rate in excess of 9000 pulses per second and uses digital techniques....". Can some of you reconfirm what was long held and believe to be true. The list includes: Wrist Watches, (... if it is small enough to be worn on a wrist....) Pocket Calculators, (or be put into a pocket...) Coffee Makers... (or that it trully makes coffee) AFAIK, these things was "exempted from testing to FCC standards" because they have not known to cause any EMC problem in the past. Please add to this list. I have for years never to seek out the reference and it is now time to hear from you quote the chapter and 'verse' where the FCC state that these are exempted.... sincerely, :-) Tim Foo "Sykes, William Thomas (Tom)" <[email protected]> wrote on 08/05/2004 07:27 AM All: Please refer to the "Guidelines on the application of Directive 89/336/EEC" at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/chapfive.ht m . In Section 5.4 "Additional practical criteria (accepted by consensus) to exclude equipment from the scope of the EMC Directive." 5.4.1 "Practical criteria and illustrative examples" it states "Although it should in principle be considered as within the scope of the Directive, the following apparatus can be considered as exempted, based upon both of the following criteria, which have also been taken in account into the development of EMC standards: ...Other equipment fulfilling the criteria above:... Quartz wrist watches without additional functions (e.g. radio receivers)." So it appears that quartz watches are exempt by their own words, but if you have additional functions that involve a clock (oscillator), I would at least do a prescreen to see what kind of emissions were present. William T. Sykes Lucent Technologies EH&S Product Safety/Conformance Manager Room 7B-516A 600-700 Mountain Avenue Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 (908)582-6937 [email protected] wrote on 08/05/2004 03:21 AM Subject: Clocks and calculators Dear Group, I want to ask you, if battery calculators and battery quartz clocks and watches (advertise gadgets) should be tested according to EMC directive? And if not, why? Best regards This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc

