Hy Keith, that is our database system. Our internal quality process is:
Step 1: EU Commission publishes a new list (e. g. yesterday a new list for construction products, ALSO with MISTAKES!!!) Step 2: Our Manager Regulations & Standards looks in our ETSI/CEN/CENELEC database to control wether this standard reference exist (date of publication, version numbers, "date of cessation", ect.) Step 3: If we state "mistakes" or "abnormalities" in the OJEU publication we send e-mails to the Commission and/or ETSI/CEN/CENELEC for confirmation. Step 4: We make comments for the users in our compliance database (that is the "legal" need for the users) and makes "yellow symbols with regard to transition periods => date of cessation of predessor documents" OR "red symbols for abnormalities" in the database. That is the reason that we are in discussions with the EUROPEAN Market Surveillance Authorities to introduce a "quality system for OJEU publications of CEN/CENELEC/ETSI references"! Example: Never ending story of EN 292-1, -2 (Machinery Safety!). The followers EN ISO 12100-1 and -2 a recurrently NOT published in the OJEU. Therefore EN 292-1 and -2 are still applicable for CE marking (that is explained in the database). That is "one" example of a long list! Mit freundlichen Grüßen Yours sincerely Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Chairman of the Product Conformity Group (DIN ANP German Committee of Standards Users) GLOBALNORM - Global Regulatory Compliance Fon: +49 30 6392-3860, Direct Call: 3861 Fax: +49 30 6392-3863 Rudower Chaussee 29 12489 Berlin Germany www.Globalnorm.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spicer, Keith" <[email protected]> To: "'M. Loerzer-Mobile (GLOBALNORM)'" <[email protected]>; "'EMC-PSTC'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: RE: OJ for R&TTE "wrong EU listing" > Michael, > > Thank you very much for this reply, it was as I thought. > Where you refer to the "red warning symbol" for other directives where > exactly are you referring too? is this your site or the cenlec site? > > > > > Also thanks to all those who posted me the OJ information. > > > > Best Regards > > > Keith Spicer > > Chief Engineer > > Quality Assurance > > Defence Tactical Communications > > Thales Land & Joint Systems > > Worton Grange > > Reading > RG2 0SB > > > > > "The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. > It may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the stated > addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is unauthorised. If you > are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other > way use or rely on the information contained in this e-mail. Such > unauthorised use may be unlawful. We may monitor all e-mail communications > through our networks. > > If you have received this e-mail in error, please inform us > immediately on +44 (0) 1293 518855 and delete it and all copies from your > system. > > We accept no responsibility for changes to any e-mail which > occur after it has been sent. Attachments to this e-mail may contain > software viruses which could damage your system. We therefore recommend you > virus-check all attachments before opening. > > A business of Thales UK Ltd. > Registered Office: 2 Dashwood Lang Road, The Bourne Business Park, > Addlestone, Weybridge, Surrey KT15 2NX Registered in England No. > 868273"Business Park, Addlestone, Weybridge, Surrey KT15 > > 2NX Registered in England No. 868273. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Loerzer-Mobile (GLOBALNORM) > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 14 December 2005 16:54 > To: Spicer, Keith; 'EMC-PSTC' > Subject: Re: OJ for R&TTE "wrong EU listing" > > > Dear Keith, > > I agree with you. The Commission has published a wrong (not existing > version) "V1.2.1". The applicable version is "V1.1.1". We have informed the > EU Commission to correct this mistake. > > That is our job: We control the ETSI/CEN/CENELEC references in the OJEU. We > have another directives with "publication mistakes" (low voltage directive > and others). You can see this references with a "red warning symbol" within > the SEARCH function => harmonized standards. > > You can see the status in our compliance online database: www.globalnorm.ca > => Members Login: IEEE-PSTC / IEEE-PSTC > > I have prepared a free trial version. You find a favorite file "Land Mobile" > with two reference documents with our comments. > > Don´t hesitate to contact. It would be great if you have any comments. > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Yours sincerely > > Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer > Managing Director > Regulatory Affairs Specialist > Chairman of the Product Conformity Group (DIN ANP German Committee of > Standards Users) > > GLOBALNORM - Global Regulatory Compliance > Fon: +49 30 6392-3860, Direct Call: 3861 > Fax: +49 30 6392-3863 > > Rudower Chaussee 29 > 12489 Berlin > Germany > > www.Globalnorm.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spicer, Keith" <[email protected]> > To: "'EMC-PSTC'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:38 PM > Subject: FW: OJ for R&TTE > > > > > > > > > > > can anyone tell me the OJ number that contained the harmonised specs for > > > the R&TTE directive please. > > > I have a conflict on ETSI EN 300 086 -2: > > > Cenlec site indicates that V1.2.1 is the latest issue but the ETSI site > > > only has V1.1.1, I would like to see what the OJ indicates, but any > > > comments would be appreciated. > > > > > > Many Thanks in advance > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Keith Spicer > > > Chief Engineer > > > Quality Assurance > > > Defence Tactical Communications > > > Thales Land & Joint Systems > > > Worton Grange > > > Reading > > > RG2 0SB > > > > > > > > > "The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It may > > > also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the stated > > > addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is unauthorised. If > you > > > are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, circulate or in any > > > other way use or rely on the information contained in this e-mail. Such > > > unauthorised use may be unlawful. We may monitor all e-mail > communications > > > through our networks. > > > > > > If you have received this e-mail in error, please inform us > > > immediately on +44 (0) 1293 518855 and delete it and all copies from > your > > > system. > > > > > > We accept no responsibility for changes to any e-mail which occur > > > after it has been sent. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software > > > viruses which could damage your system. We therefore recommend you > > > virus-check all attachments before opening. > > > > > > A business of Thales UK Ltd. 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