Some very good points, I particularly like the idea of using a date rather than the bar.
I'm not dissenting, I just want to get the facts right. I have to present a report to management and I'm trying to cover all the bases. If I get asked why we are pre-empting UK legislation, I want to be able to give an answer. I have a horrible feeling that this is going to be another "mains harmonics" situation. I hope not. I guess I have too many questions and not enough answers at the moment, perhaps I'm looking too deeply into this whole thing. I'll order some labels next week :o) Thanks for you input Chris. Cheers Chris _____________________________________________ Christopher Colgan Compliance Engineer Soundcraft & Studer Harman International Industries Ltd Tel: +44 (0) 1707 668081 Fax: +44 (0) 1707 660755 EMail: [email protected] Web : http://www.soundcraft.com Web : http://www.studer.ch This email may contain confidential / privileged information and is intended, solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you may not disclose, copy, distribute or retain any part of this message or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately via e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Harman International Industries Ltd or its affiliated companies. -----Original Message----- From: James, Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2005 17:08 To: Colgan, Christopher [Harman Pro Group UK]; Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: WEEE labelling in the UK So what are you doing about product you are selling in MS who already have legislation? Historic waste is everything pre 13 Aug 2005 - you can't have different dates throughout the MS. If you apply the wheelie without the bar but have the date marked on the unit you cover all bases. Bottom line it's your decision, your legal fees, your product market - everyone else is doing what the letter asks, or rather I have seen no other dissenters on several other WEEE/RoHS forums - if you go to a compliance scheme that's what they'll say you should be doing. Regards, Chris From: Colgan, Christopher [Harman Pro Group UK] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2005 17:00 To: James, Chris; Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: WEEE labelling in the UK But that's my point. All the guidelines etc state something like "The Government proposes to implement on 13 August 2005 the WEEE Directive...." but they haven't. The draft Statutory Instrument hasn't even been completed, let alone laid before parliament. Without an SI, there's no legislation, ergo, there's no enforcement. My concern is that we will mark products before legislation requires us to do so. This may confuse the historical waste issue if the SI declares a date other than August 13. I don't think you can have retrospective legislation. ie how can you have a law that state "all products will be marked from last year"? The UK Government are in breach of the directive and they're in trouble with Brussels. In the meantime the poor manufacturers are being told to prepare for WEEE legislation but not being told exactly what the WEEE legislation is! Cheers Chris _____________________________________________ Christopher Colgan Compliance Engineer Soundcraft & Studer Harman International Industries Ltd Tel: +44 (0) 1707 668081 Fax: +44 (0) 1707 660755 EMail: [email protected] Web : http://www.soundcraft.com Web : http://www.studer.ch This email may contain confidential / privileged information and is intended, solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you may not disclose, copy, distribute or retain any part of this message or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately via e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Harman International Industries Ltd or its affiliated companies. -----Original Message----- From: James, Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2005 16:43 To: Colgan, Christopher [Harman Pro Group UK]; Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: WEEE labelling in the UK Chris - see topmost bullet point on page 2 of this: http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/weee/Planning_for_Implementation.pd f Marking still required from the 13th Aug 2005........ Regards, Chris This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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