John

J have heard something about Pb-free problems, but supposed it was improved 
and going to be good and robust technology.
You reopened my eyes.

With this 13 degrees C is it true?
What if my products are specified for -30 degrees (and often mounted 
outdoors).
To avoid problems with new technology we (small firm) decided to move the 
production to contract manufacturer and supposed Pb-free technology is no 
longer our problem.
Our standard warranty period is 3 years, and many devices sold 10 years ago 
are still in use and I hope will be working for next 10 years (and more).

Should we change our warranty to say that Pb-free technology problems are 
out of warranty ?

Off-topic:
I have 14 years old 27" TV (working well).
If Pb-free technology is a kind of programmed dead time and any new TV after 
year or two will be dead it makes 7 times more TV/year to sell.
This suggest who can be interested in this legislation.

Best Regards

Piotr Galka



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Barnes" <[email protected]>
To: "Jim Eichner" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Off-topic: lead free solder and reliability


> Jim,
> Since late December 2004 I've been doing an extensive study on designing
> lead-free, RoHS-compliant, and WEEE-compliant electronics.  To date I
> have collected over 125 books and well over 5,400 papers/reports/
> magazine articles/web pages on these subjects.  I have links to over
> 2,350 of these documents that are available for free via the Internet,
> in my now-344-page Bibliography at
>   http://www.dbicorporation.com/rohsbib.htm
>
> I've run across quite a few studies on the failure modes, reliability,
> and longevity of lead-free electronics.  Personally, I think that we are
> going to be darned lucky if some of these lead-free electronic products
> outlast the manufacturer's warranty period-- regardless of whether they
> are:
> *  In continuous use.
> *  In intermittent use.
> *  Sitting idle.
>      OR
> *  Still in the original, unopened box!
>
> Some problems that are showing up with lead-free solders and platings,
> that have been almost unknown for over 40 years with lead-bearing
> solders and platings, are:
> *  Tin whiskers, causing short circuits.
> *  Tin pest (tin plague, tin leprosy, tin disease), causing opens when
>   the solder turns to dust at temperatures below 13 degrees C.
> *  Sensitivity to physical shock, causing opens when a product is
>   dropped even a short distance onto a hard surface.
> *  Kirkendall voids, causing opens.
> *  Conductive anodic filaments (CAF), causing shorts *inside* printed
>   circuit boards.
>
> I bought myself a new computer shortly after Christmas, and I don't plan
> to buy any more new electronics for myself or my businesses -- unless I
> absolutely have to -- until at least July 2007.  By then we may know
> whether lead-free electronics are worth a darn in any environment.  Or
> maybe the Europeans will repeal the RoHS Directive after enraged
> consumers have lynched some of the legislators who enacted that
> misbegotten law...
>
> John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, NCT, ESDC Eng, ESDC Tech, PSE, SM IEEE
> dBi Corporation
> Robust Electronic Design, Inc.
> http://www.dbicorporation.com/
>
> (Author of Robust Electronic Design Reference Book, Volumes 1 & 2)
>
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