No takers?  Not a single bite so far!  Do I take that to mean nobody has
found anyone that offers what I'm after?

Just in case that's the situation, let me open it up a bit.  Who are
people using for network licensed soft copies of EN's, and what features
do they offer?

Thanks,

Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
Compliance Engineering Manager
Xantrex Technology Inc. 
e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com 
web: www.xantrex.com 
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From: emc-p...@ieee.org  On Behalf Of Jim Eichner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:39 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Source for soft copy network licensed Euro Normes, and maybe
consolidated versions!?!?

Like I'm sure many of you do, we maintain a collection of EN's in soft
copy on our network.  

Being good corporate citizens, when we set this up we searched around
for sources that could give us what we needed (in English, by the way)
with a license that either directly allowed network installation, or at
least did not preclude network installation.  We ended up with ILI
Infodisk, who gives us network licensed subscriptions (automatic
updates) to EN's published by Irish Standards.  The service has been
good and their pricing was competitive at the time.  But it's been a few
years, and I want to do a bit of comparison shopping.

My question is who are people using for this?  Specifically, who can
people recommend that fit the following criteria:

Mandatory:

- English language EN's (primarily for LVD and EMCD)
- PDF or other convenient soft-copy format
- legally allowed to be installed on our corporate intranet
- able to copy and paste extracts out of the standards (for design
doc's, e-mails etc.)
- able to print from the standards
- automatic notification of availability of revisions and new versions

Desired but not mandatory:
- consolidated editions (*see below)
- able to annotate the standards electronically (e.g. using the comments
tool in Acrobat Reader) so that we can highlight passages, put in
clarifying notes, etc.)
- automatic downloads of revisions and new versions

A far distant second choice would be internet-based access.

Regarding my term "consolidated editions", here's what I'm on about.  It
drives me nuts that the standards we currently receive have a structure
is very difficult to use, especially in soft format.  There is usually a
base IEC or CISPR document.  Then there's a CENELEC "cover sheet" that
says here's the EN such and such with a date and some other housekeeping
odds and ends, and then a set of Common Modifications ("CM's").  Then
there's (in our case) an Irish Standards cover sheet with its own date
and housekeeping odds and ends.  So far I have to look in 2 places to
know the EN requirement - in the base document, and in the CM's.

Then an amendment comes along.  We get a new soft copy that now contains
all of the above, plus a copy of the IEC or CISPR amendment, which lists
the changes separately but does not embed them in the base document.
That Amendment of course comes with a CENELEC cover sheet with CM's, and
an IS cover sheet.  I now have to look in 4 places to know the EN
requirement since both base documents and CENELEC CM's exist for both
the original version and the Amendment.  Each amendment adds to the
mess.  For a good example try following some of the requirements in
EN55022:1998 / A2:2003 (which is really CISPR 22 3rd Edition 1997
A2:2002, and by the way the 5th edition cleaned this all up but it of
course hasn't been published in the OJ so it's a moot standard so far).

So my desire is to find someone who consolidates all this garbage into a
readable standard where all the base requirements, CM's, and Amendments
are embedded into their proper place (and hopefully annotated to
indicate their origin).  I believe BSI has done this in SOME cases, but
last time I checked they were not able to offer network licensed
versions.

I'll stop ranting and dreaming now.  All input and comments are welcome.

Thanks,


Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
Compliance Engineering Manager
Xantrex Technology Inc. 
e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com
web: www.xantrex.com
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to give a piece of his mind to the publishers (not the well intentioned
authors) of these standards.
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