Bob Heller
3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
Tel:  651- 778-6336
Fax:  651-778-6252
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I tried to send the letters that were sent to and from Japan but the list
server rejected .pdf attachments. If you are concerned about the recent
letters of exchange (and I would be), go to the NVLAP website and look
under MRAs to read them.

Bob Heller
3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
Tel:  651- 778-6336
Fax:  651-778-6252
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Attached are the letters (final) that were sent to and from Japan. To me it
reads that you must join the VCCI. These letters can be found on the NVLAP
website under MRAs.

(See attached file: Japan_EMC_Letter_to_US_Final_Feb_07.pdf)

(See attached file: US_EMC_Letter_to_Japan_Final_Feb_07.pdf)

Bob Heller
3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
Tel:  651- 778-6336
Fax:  651-778-6252
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Ted,
             Thanks for the link. This is, I believe, good news. As to
Bob's
question about the labs having to join and get VCCI approval. The
answer, up to this point, yes. It has been expensive and time consuming
for the labs to do so. A Japanese engineering team would have to show up
and audit the site and then paper flew back and forth between the lab
and the VCCI with time and frustration growing. If a registered site
added a second measurement site at the same facility - they had to have
the whole thing repeated with the associated costs attached. Most labs
that I've gone to had exactly one VCCI registered site even if they had
multiple test sites. (One lab I've gone to had three separate OATS
areas)
             Any idea how this is going to affect the manufacturers?
Manufacturers also had to join the VCCI before they could submit the
data from the VCCI registered labs? If they now accept the labs based on
the NVLAP or A2LA certification, will we still need to submit a test
report and put on a VCCI logo? I assume the Japanese phrasing will still
be required as a minimum. We are not currently VCCI members so I can't
ask them directly.
             Gary


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For those who have not seen the notification, the full letter is at this
link.
http://www.vcci.or.jp/vcci_e/news/newinfo73.pdf

As I read it, NVLAP and A2LA test laboratory data will now be acceptable
even if the laboratory is not registered with VCCI.  The letter states
that
the original agreement text "Both NVLAP and A2LA are not valid until
notification" has been removed from the VCCI requirements.

Ted Eckert
American Power Conversion/MGE
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In February of this year there was an exchange of letters between the US
(FCC) and Japan (VCCI) on the mutual acceptance of EMC test reports by
accredited test facilities. If I am reading the letter from the VCCI
correctly, I believe that the US laboratories now have to join the VCCI
and
register their sites with the VCCI to gain acceptance. Does anyone know
if
this is correct? I have an inquiry into the FCC but I think it involves
too
many Governmental links to quickly get an answer.

Thank you,
Bob Heller
3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
Tel:  651- 778-6336
Fax:  651-778-6252

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