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Regards, Denis Ryskamp Environmental Compliance Manager Trimble Dayton 5475 Kellenburger Road Dayton, Ohio 45424 *: 01-937-245-5539 *: [email protected] From: Harris, Kevin J (DSC) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:45 AM To: Denis Ryskamp; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Hello Denis, Do you have any suggestions on where we can find official sources of the information you have given below so developments can be tracked. Thanks Kevin Harris From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Denis Ryskamp Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 09:48 To: Daniel Roman; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III [text][heur][BCC][ffrom][spf] US and States' Legislation indicates EPS manufactured after dates identified in the associated enacted legislations must meet requirements to be shipped into same. As to teeth, shipment will not be allowed if intercepted. Thus your customer suffers. Fines are being defined. Regards, Denis Ryskamp Environmental Compliance Manager Trimble Dayton 5475 Kellenburger Road Dayton, Ohio 45424 *: 01-937-245-5539 *: [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Roman Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Dennis, Don, et al, So if you have an existing supply that it is non-compliant and there is not a replacement yet, what are the repercussions? Will this only be enforced in federal government tendered contracts and maybe some state government contracts? Is this enforced at the retail level? I see lots of requirements but I don't see the teeth. Dan From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Denis Ryskamp Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:16 AM To: Umbdenstock, Don; Kunde, Brian; Aldous, Scott; Brian O'Connell; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Don Tricky date of manufacture requirement. Here is how we are handling the date of manufacture: As you are aware, an EPS can be shipped in the US as long as the date of manufacture is before July 1, 2008 for most states. Note that: ---California had implemented level III for January 1, 2007 and July 1, 2007 depending on application. So any EPS shipment into California if not compliant would need to have a date of manufacture before January 1, 2007. Any supply manufactured between January 1, 2007 and July , 2008 would need to meet the level "III" requirements to be shipped into California after July 1, 2008. Also, level IV had already been enacted to take effect July 1, 2008. ---Now there are several states that have recently enacted requirements equivalent to California ECE tier 1 ("III") for EPS manufactured after January 1, 2008. So, for these states, the EPS if non-compliant would have a date of manufacture prior to January 1, 2008 or would have to meet Level "III" requirements for date of manufacture between January 1, 2008 and July 1, 2008 to ship into these states after July 1, 2008. Confused yet? Australia and New Zealand in pending legislation appear to require that the EPS meet the level "III" requirements when imported on or after October 1, 2008 this would be regardless of date of manufacture. EPS imported before this date can be delivered in country. Regards, Denis Ryskamp Environmental Compliance Manager Trimble Dayton 5475 Kellenburger Road Dayton, Ohio 45424 *: 01-937-245-5539 *: [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Umbdenstock, Don Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:20 PM To: Kunde, Brian; Aldous, Scott; Brian O'Connell; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III The date of effectivity is July 1, 2008. Section 301 which addresses external single output power supplies does not identify specific categories of products. The only exception that I found was for spares produced after 2008. Effectivity applies to date of manufacture of the power supplies. Interesting point, does it apply to ps manufacturers or End Use products? My take would be End Use, just like having the required safety mark. The enforcer (?) would come after the guy who placed it on the market...just my opinion. Policed? Don't know, but curious... Don 561 912 6440 From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:13 PM To: Aldous, Scott; Umbdenstock, Don; Brian O'Connell; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III So what is the "date of enactment"? When must we comply to this requirement? Is this requirement for all products in all applications? How about Industrial or laboratory products? Is this a requirement for the power supply manufacturers or the End Use product provider? How will this be policed? The Other Brian From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aldous, Scott Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:43 AM To: Umbdenstock, Don; Brian O'Connell; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Hi Don, The link I provided earlier is to an Excel spreadsheet with multiple tabs. There is a tab for ac-ac supplies. The list is much shorter than the ac-dc tab, and the highest nameplate power rating is 36W. Scott Aldous Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Tel: 970-407-6872 Fax: 970-407-5872 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Umbdenstock, Don Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:36 AM To: Brian O'Connell; [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Brian, Thanks for the insight. By the way, I forgot to mention in my quest -- I was looking for ac-ac supplies. I found many ac-dc supplies... Don 561 912 6440 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Nothing I say represents the opinion of my employer or my cat, but my dog concurs. 1. My employer, and some other power supply mfrs, have had hi-eff component supplies on the market for years, but all the industries that we sell to (IT, medical, and instrument) just want it now, want the cost to be just above dirt, and yet want it super-simple (although some of our custom medical stuff has lots of bells and whistles). And almost no one wants a leading-edge, uber reliable, hi-eff power supply; so they remain expensive. You get what you pay for... 2. My employer, and several competitors, are developing small units to meet the 85% operating eff and the 0.5W off-line mode requirements. Most power supply mfrs were not, until recently, allowed to commit engineering resources to design units that conform to energy stds because, other than several non-federal governments, there was no clear indication that this legislative edict would be issued, and that it would effect a large enough scale that would 'force' the creation of a market for these units. That is, almost none of you wanted to buy hi-eff stuff until the Peoples Republic forced you too... I know that this does not answer the OP question. But, I think the compliance community needs to be aware of the basis of this messy situation. Also, for the next year or so, there will be confusion on energy compliance. There are still unanswered questions of the test metrics involved, and how to specify compliance. luck, Brian From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Umbdenstock, Don Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Public Law 110-140 -- Title III Public Law 110-140, previously known as HR6 is now in effect. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_con g_public_laws&docid=f:publ140.110.pdf Of significance is that external power supplies are now covered under federal law for standby and active mode efficiency (Title III Section 301). Efficiency level IV is required July of this year; the bill was signed into law in December, providing only a 6 month transition period. A number of power supply manufacturers for mid range supplies (50W) seem to be challenged to meet the standby limit. Would anyone care to identify vendors that they have had success with in providing level IV compliant mid range supplies? Don - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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