I tried to get a Notified Body opinion on this issue today, but I have to try again next week.
So far, I support the suggestion of both marks on the label. Br. Amund Fra: Lauren Crane [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 10. juni 2011 22:50 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [PSES] CE marking conflict Good point, John. If two separate markets are foreseen for the part, both directives (and possibly others, depending on what the part is) may be applicable. In that case, I can't imagine it would be a problem to mark one component with both marks (i.e., for both markets) provided the single part could indeed be made that conforms to both set of criteria. -- Lauren Crane (mr.) Product Regulatory Analyst | Corporate Product EHS | Applied Materials Office 512.272.6540 | Mobile 512.736.7201 | America - Europe - Asia -external use- ** Save paper and trees! Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. From: "John Cotman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: 06/10/2011 10:45 AM Subject: RE: [PSES] CE marking conflict Sent by: [email protected] ________________________________ If I understand Lauren’s reply, he is correctly pointing out that a product cannot simultaneously fall within the scope of the Marine Equipment and ATEX Directives, by virtue of the ATEX exclusion he quotes. In the case that it’s always used in a seagoing vessel etc, only the MED marking would be appropriate. Maybe what is envisaged is a device with more than one potential use, one sea-going, the other not? In that case, dual marking would be the right answer. John C ________________________________ From: Lauren Crane [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: 10 June 2011 15:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking conflict Unless there are clauses in either directive that say otherwise, use both marks. I am not aware of anything in ATEX that contra-indicates the Wheel Mark. Note that the ATEX directive may drive other marking in additional to "CE" depending on the particulars of a component under consideration. But even more importantly, note the following ATEX exclusions The following are excluded from the scope of this Directive: — medical devices intended for use in a medical environment, — equipment and protective systems where the explosion hazard results exclusively from the presence of explosive substances or unstable chemical substances, — equipment intended for use in domestic and non-commercial environments where potentially explosive atmospheres may only rarely be created, solely as a result of the accidental leakage of fuel gas, — personal protective equipment covered by Directive 89/686/EEC (1), — seagoing vessels and mobile offshore units together with equipment on board such vessels or units, — means of transport, i.e. vehicles and their trailers intended solely for transporting passengers by air or by road, rail or water networks, as well as means of transport in so far as such means are designed for transporting goods by air, by public road or rail networks or by water. Vehicles intended for use in a potentially explosive atmosphere shall not be excluded, — the equipment covered by Article 223 (1) (b) of the Treaty. -- Lauren Crane (mr.) Product Regulatory Analyst | Corporate Product EHS | Applied Materials Office 512.272.6540 | Mobile 512.736.7201 | America - Europe - Asia -external use- ** Save paper and trees! Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. From: "Amund Westin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> List-Post: [email protected] Date: 06/10/2011 08:04 AM Subject: CE marking conflict Sent by: [email protected] ________________________________ A product under Marine Equipment Directive shall be marked with the Wheel-mark. A product under ATEX Directive shall be marked with the ”CE” mark. If a product is coved by both directives, shall both marks be in use? 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