I had started off about our using a rubber chicken, but canceled thinking it might a little much.
ps. I think the rubber chicken will make a great global warming meter, when it melts... Attitude is Mind over Matter. If you don't Mind, it doesn't Matter... This email has been displayed using 100% recycled electrons and 100% pure virgin photons. --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Kunde, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Kunde, Brian <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Gauss Meter recommendation > To: "Untitled" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 9:53 AM > This reminds me of two evens from my > past. > > 1. Back in the 70's home siding and window salesmen went > door to door > offering a free home energy analysis. Using a hand held > device, the > meter would increase as they walked toward a window showing > the loss of > energy. In fact, the meter was a Light Meter used by > photographers. > People are so gullible. > > 2. Again some years back, people were all freaked out about > microwave > ovens. A customer of ours purchased a hand held microwave > detector (with > meter movement) to measure the microwave fields leaking out > of their > ovens in all the employee break rooms. Our company sold > them an > unrelated device (carbon analyzer) that had a small > electrode heater > which emits a magnetic field at line frequency. Someone put > the > Microwave Meter next to our product and the meter jumped > all over the > place. They had a fit thinking that our product was > emitting microwaves > and they would not accept our explanation that the meter > movement was > just being screwed with by the magnetic field. > > BTW, I'm looking for a "Global Warming Meter" if anyone > knows where I > can get one. :o) > > The other Brian > > PS: The sense of humor displayed by some of the people on > this email > group really makes my day. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Ken > Javor > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:49 PM > To: Untitled > Subject: Re: Gauss Meter recommendation > > If I lived in a state on the brink of bankruptcy, and > falling into the > Pacific, I might have trouble sleeping as well, but it's a > bit of a > stretch > to blame insomnia on overhead power lines. It might > not be much of a > stretch to say that the reason CA is on the brink of > bankruptcy is a > populace that loses sleep and blames it on such minutiae. > > OTOH, if I lived out there and could make money off it, I > might be a > little > more charitable. Mencken said no one ever went broke > underestimating > the > intelligence of the American people, and I believe it was > PT Barnum who > said > a sucker is born every minute. So my crankiness is > likely just due to > the > fact that I'm not cleaning up on all the idiocy out there. > > Having said all that, if you were going to use a spectrum > analyzer, you > would need one that went down to power line frequencies. > These tend to > be > more expensive than the garden variety kind that start at 9 > kHz. And a > biconical antenna is not your transducer of choice. You are > looking at a > handheld coil here. > > You need to have some kind of assessment of what you expect > to see, > because > different meters cover different field intensities, and you > need one > optimized for what you want. > > Most EMF meters don't feed an external device, they just > give a number, > which purports to be the magnetic field from the power > line. Ideally it > would be a broadband device that would cover the power > frequency and > lots of > harmonics, so you can say you are measuring everything out > there. It > isn't > immediately obvious you need to break down the spectrum of > power > frequency > and individual harmonics, unless the latest "study" shows > that humans > are > particularly susceptible to a particular frequency or set > of > frequencies. > > When you get all done measuring the fields from the > overheads, place the > meter next to an appliance the home dwellers might spend > some time > around. > My mother has a forty or fifty year old clock that is an > electric motor > that > runs off the power mains. You set a meter next to it and it > will bury > the > needle every time. > > Have fun - freak people out. > > Oh, yeah, you were actually looking for useful > advice. You can put emf > meter into a search engine and find any number of devices > which are good > enough for the purpose. They are likely useless, but as I > said, good > enough > for the purpose. If you want a real meter, Walker > Scientific makes > these. > Others do as well, but I'm familiar with Walker. One > type of meter > works on > the principle of a loop driving an impedance much lower > than that of the > loop itself. The meter measures current out of the loop > into the low > impedance. If you do the math, you will see that the > current level is > proportional to the magnetic field, but is > frequency--independent. > That's > what you want. Maybe around $1000 these days. > Per my Swiss cheese > memory > cells, the model was a Walker VLF-80D, and it covered power > frequency to > maybe 50 kHz or thereabouts. I believe it had > an output you could feed > to > a spectrum analyzer so you could see the individual > harmonics, in > addition > tot he meter giving total field intensify as a number. > > Ken Javor > > Phone: (256) 650-5261 > > > > From: "Jayasinghe, Ryan" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:11:54 -0800 > > To: "'[email protected]'" > <[email protected]> > > Conversation: Gauss Meter recommendation > > Subject: Gauss Meter recommendation > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have been tasked with recommending a Gauss meter and > welcome your > comments > > and experiences. > > > > This meter will be used to determine if a certain > residence is > receiving too > > much EMF. > > > > There are power lines just outside and the residents > have trouble > sleeping, > > they have other residences where sleep is not an > issue. > > > > I have looked at some 3 axis models for around > $300.00, ones with data > logging > > are more. > > > > Is frequency weighting an important feature? We are > also open to > renting. > > > > We have a hp spectrum analyzer/biconical antenna but > that would be too > > unwieldy. > > > > If portable or handheld spectrum analyzer would be the > better tool, > this maybe > > an opportunity for me to purchase one. > > > > Any advice is appreciated. Models methods > anecdotes... > > > > Regard, > > > > Ryan > > > > Ryan Jazz Jayasinghe > Compliance Engineer > x1198 > > Canoga Perkins > > Direct:(818) 678-3898 > > 20600 Prairie Street > Company:(818) > 718-6300 > > Chatsworth, CA 91311-6008 > e-mail: [email protected] > > www.canoga.com > FAX:(818) > 678-3798 > > > > - > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety > Engineering Society > emc-pstc > > discussion list. 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