Some products are very sensitive to interconnecting cable placement. I don't know of many labs that actually go through cable manipulation at each frequency being measured, along with rotating the product and scanning the antenna height, to make sure the emissions measured are truly "maximized". I think this is one factor that may contribute to lack of repeatability.
Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Stillings Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'Amund Westin'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Different Radiated Emissions results at different labs You should be using a different test lab. We have never had that much of a variation on the same EUT. I attribute that to using a true EMI receiver, which has much better amplitude accuracy then a spectrum analyzer. But that is a whole different discussion. I have seen products leave the lab and come back and have the same profile within 1 dB or less. Larry Stillings Compliance Worldwide, Inc. ________________________________ From: Amund Westin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: SV: [PSES] Different Radiated Emissions results at different labs Quite often I see 4-5 dB variation on the same EUT and on the same lab. Day 1: Make measurement. Take down the test setup. Day 2: New measurement. Same EUT. Tries to recapitulate the test setup with same EUT position on the table and cables. This is a challenge .... J #Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 29. oktober 2010 09:04 Til: [email protected] Emne: [PSES] Different Radiated Emissions results at different labs Group Testing a product to CISPR11 class B and seeing quite a difference in results below 1 GHz when tested at two different labs. I don't wish to discuss why this is being done, but would be very grateful for any Quantitative data people have on differences between different OATS or between OATS and semi-anechoic or anechoic chambers. 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