We have some EUT's running in the 10's of kHz and find the chamber "leaks" 
considerably.  
Next week we'll see if that can be fixed.  The signals did not get through the 
chamber filter, but we are checking again to be sure.


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--- On Fri, 9/10/10, Jones, Richard (Richard) <[email protected]> wrote:



        From: Jones, Richard (Richard) <[email protected]>
        Subject: RE: [PSES] Power Line Filters for EMC Chambers
        To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
        Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 4:11 PM
        
        

        This is interesting, I had interpreted it to mean that I was checking 
to ensure no RF was getting out of the chamber rather than getting in. I guess 
it’s fairly safe to say if I don’t measure anything inside probably nothing is 
getting out either! 

         

        The question actually came out of ISO 17025 where it states:

         

        150-11 5.5.1 b) Requirements for checking associated critical 
equipment, such as power line filters, and grounding systems shall also be 
specified and the results documented.

         

        I was thinking along the lines of 100dB performance and taking actual 
measurements, which after looking at Mil Std 220 and CISPR17 isn’t for the 
faint hearted!

         

        Rich

         

         

        From: Price, Edward [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:35 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [PSES] Power Line Filters for EMC Chambers

         

        Rich:

         

        If you mean testing the RF filtering performance of the filters, you 
could just use a very empirical approach. After all, what are the filters 
supposed to do? Answer, keep RF noise out of the chamber.

         

        If you periodically do a conducted and radiated emission ambient check 
inside the chamber, and, if you don’t detect any emissions, then the filters 
are working.

         

         

        Ed Price

        [email protected]     WB6WSN

        NARTE Certified EMC Engineer

        Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab

        Cubic Defense Applications

        San Diego, CA  USA

        858-505-2780

        Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty

         

        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jones, 
Richard (Richard)
        Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:35 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [PSES] Power Line Filters for EMC Chanmbers

         

        For EMC labs: Does anyone have a method for testing Power Line Filter 
performance once  installed on an EMC Chamber.

         

        I was asked this question recently as our filters are over 10yrs old, 
at the time I couldn’t think of anything short of removing them to test 
performance.

        I did wonder if some simple verification of filter current leakage to 
ground would suffice as capacitors age but the inductors less so, ofcourse 
that’s not checking actual performance.

        The installation is visually checked and grounding measured regularly 
and up until now no other thought was given to it.

         

        Rich

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