Grace,

The roughly 29.5 dB factor is the voltage divider obtained by driving a 50 Ohm
load from a 1500 Ohm source.  If the impedance at 30 MHz were really 560 Ohms,
the correction factor would be 21.5 dB, not the 29.3 dB shown.  So it looks to
me as if there is a typo.  It would also help to have a schematic of the
device. I am away from home right now, and don’t have access to it, but it
is described in one of the old FCC or ANSI standards. I recall there being the
high value resistance, but also an inductance paralleling the 50 Ohm output to
further short out the mains frequency signal. I don’t recall there being a
blocking cap, but it seems like there would be one of those as well.

But all that aside, if there is a 1500 Ohm resistance in there, it is hard to
figure out how you could get a total impedance line-to-ground of less than
1500 Ohms...
 
Ken Javor

Phone: (256) 650-5261



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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:24:34 -0500
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Subject: 3701 Line Probe

Dear Members,
 
I purchased and received a 3701 line probe.  I need your help to learn this
probe.  I attach its calibration data below for reference.  Two types of
calibration data, Impedance and Insertion Loss, come with the probe.
 
Question 1:
The impedance varies a lot over the frequency range from 9kHz (1,750.095 ohm)
to 30MHz (566.456 ohm).  Is this variation acceptable?  I plan to use this
probe to measure disturbance voltage at load terminals per CISPR 15.  The
second paragraph under Introduction of the 3701 manual
(http://www.ets-lindgren.com/manuals/3701.pdf) states "The Model 3701 Line
Probe presents a nominal resistance of 1500 ohms to all voltages on the line. 
The Line Probe also attenuates noise voltage, so a correction factor must be
added to the EMI receiver readings to obtain the proper emission levels on the
line."  To me, 566.456 ohm is too far away from 1,500 ohm.
 
Question 2:
Is the insertion loss the correction factor mentioned in the paragraph quoted
above?  For example, if the EMI receiver reading is 20 dBuV at 9kHz, should I
add 36.078 dB to it as my test data/result?
 
Thank you for your time and look forward to hearing from you.
 
Best regards,
Grace 
 
 
 
Freq (MHz),Impedance (Ohms),Insertion Loss (-dB)
0.009,1764.095,-36.078
0.01,1750.831,-35.505
0.02,1539.087,-32.393
0.03,1526.762,-31.143
0.04,1525.608,-30.51
0.05,1524.686,-30.217
0.06,1523.528,-30.043
0.07,1527.384,-29.935
0.08,1522.35,-29.859
0.09,1523.744,-29.81
0.1,1522.031,-29.77
0.2,1521.142,-29.638
0.3,1520.676,-29.606
0.4,1520.399,-29.592
0.5,1518.446,-29.581
0.6,1517.75,-29.575
0.7,1516.088,-29.569
0.8,1515.104,-29.564
0.9,1513.197,-29.556
1,1511.712,-29.554
2,1486.775,-29.524
3,1450.57,-29.499
4,1405.686,-29.477
5,1356.307,-29.46
6,1304.82,-29.443
7,1247.061,-29.428
8,1175.883,-29.413
9,1118.001,-29.398
10,1069.605,-29.389
15,856.509,-29.35
20,708.009,-29.326
25,633.139,-29.297
30,566.456,-29.284
 
 
 
 
 
 
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