Hi Gert,

ILS (Instrument Landing System) operates in the VHF band (108-118 MHz).
There is also DME (Distance measuring equipment) which operates in the
960-1215MHz band.

Mvg,

Willem Jan Jong  



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gert
Gremmen
Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2009 7:17
To: Michael Heckrotte; Frank Krozel; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Anechoic chambers: risks of energy leaking out

Right. 

But still reduces the screening
of your chamber from 100 dB or so
to 30...40 and thus may cause problems
with immunity testing.

That brings me to a related subject:

The risks that go with RF energy leaking out.

Well if you are in the middle
of Texas, that may not be such a problem.

But my chamber is located precisely below the landing path of Rotterdam
airport, and civil aircrafts like B737 fly approx. 150m (500ft) above
it.

Any idea what may happen, if a substantial amount of the right frequency
leaks out at the right (?!?) moment ?
 
Well, in fact I don't know. 

Is there someone on this list with
pertinent data on this subject ??
Someone that can provide risk frequencies ?

Gert  Gremmen


Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Michael
Heckrotte
Verzonden: donderdag 15 januari 2009 3:26
Aan: Frank Krozel; [email protected]; [email protected]
Onderwerp: RE: Anechoic Chamber: Pass-through on hydraulic lines

All,

As was stated some months or years ago on this list regarding this same
topic:

The waveguide pipe is an outer conducter, the wire going through it is a
center conductor, and the combination of insulation/air is a dielectric;
this configuration is also known as a coaxial cable = transmission line.

If you absolutely must feed a wire or an ungrounded coax into a chamber,
and the wire or coax ground cannot be filtered, then feed the wire or
coax through two absorbing clamps, one inside the chamber and one
outside the chamber. Place an absorbing clamp at each end of the
waveguide pipe, butted up as close as possible to the waveguide pipe.
This is effective over the frequency range at which the absorbing clamps
provide decent common-mode decoupling.

Best Regards,
Mike

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank
Krozel
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Anechoic Chamber: Pass-through on hydraulic lines

All,
Tim's comment made me think.  In the past, I have seen hydraulic lines
passed through waveguide feed-thrus that have  re-inforced metal braid.
Be aware of this if you need to pass hydraulic lines into your chamber
or RF shielded enclosure.  Alternatives do exist that are
non-conductive.

Regards Frank Krozel
http://www.electronicinstrument.com



From: Haynes, Tim (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: Anechoic Chamber: Pass-through vs. Bulkhead


Hi All,

Conventional wisdom is, as stated, to bond the shield of a cable,
hydraulic pipe, or any other electrically conductive - non-energised
item that penetrates the shield wall. This is usually done with a
purpose made "bulkhead" connector and is, again, usually done at a
purpose made access plate in the shield room wall.

Energised items cannot be connected to the shield and here the
conventional wisdom is to connect the energised conductor via a filter
that has its local ground connected to the shield wall.

However, it might be acceptable to use a pass-through pipe where the
pipe is long and can provide a sufficiently high capacitance to ground
to form a

functional filter at the frequencies of concern. The capacitance might
be increased by "stuffing" the pass through pipe  with conductive wire
wool.

I once had no option but to "pass through" a cable into the chamber. The

project allowed me to remove the outer insulation at the pass through
and I bonded the cable shield to the screened room by using a bolt to
apply pressure to a shim of metal that held the cable firmly to the
metal of the pass through pipe. That worked well.

I hope the information helps.

Regards
Tim

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