The warning as I remember, was that the temperature at launch time was lower than the design criteria of the gaskets, and these gaskets had leaked before, just not at a critical location. You can see the glow of a leak in one of the publicity posters from NASA. The booster segments get transported by rail and barge and had to fit tunnels and bridges.
- Bill In the event of a national emergency, click on the following links to provide directions to your duly elected mis-representative. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml or... https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm ________________________________ From: Ken Javor <ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> To: Untitled <emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 12:13:27 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Emissions (now the STS O-ring debate) I’m not a rocket scientist, so I can’t opine on the technique whereby they load fuel and then attach solid rocket booster segments to each other. But the whole idea of solid rocket boosters in the first place was to save cost: the cost of boosting the Orbiter into low earth orbit on liquid fueled motors alone was deemed unacceptable. When you consider that a solid rocket booster (SRB) is essentially a giant firecracker, in that once it’s lit it runs until it burns out, and nothing on earth can control it, then you see that compromises with respect to the safety of a fully controllable liquid rocket motor (as installed on the Orbiter itself) were taken from the very inception of the design. This is not a criticism at all; it is a simple recognition that cost vs. risk tradeoffs are part of the very fabric of any manned space program, or any product development for that matter. I remain convinced, absent any deathbed confessions, that the managers who signed off on launching the Challenger that January in 1986 felt they were simply assuming one more risk, and one that did not significantly increase the overall risk of the mission. Obviously the decision was incorrect, and they had been warned, but as I noted earlier, it was one more warning amongst the myriad over the life of the program, and it was “lost in the noise”, they had no way of discerning that this warning was real, as opposed to the many that had been received and properly disposed of during the previous decade of development and spaceflight. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 ________________________________ From: "Price, Edward" <ed.pr...@cubic.com> List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:29:13 -0800 To: <emc-p...@ieee.org> Conversation: [PSES] Emissions (now the STS O-ring debate) Subject: RE: [PSES] Emissions (now the STS O-ring debate) While it was fascinating to learn of the compromises and bad assumptions that led to this disaster, I think you can say that the players were locked into their positions by some nasty political horse-trading. We talk about the seals, saying that rubber O-rings sealing a rocket motor case doesn’t sound too bright. But they had to seal the seams somehow, because there were seams. OK, now why were the booster rockets built out of multiple linked cylindrical sections? Was this decision based on good rocket-building guidelines, or maybe because they needed to ship the rockets a long way from where they were built to where they were used? I don’t think I have heard any discussion about why the boosters were designed this way. Perhaps it was because the boosters were required to be re-usable, or perhaps it was just a quick answer to how to ship them easily, once a vendor had already been selected (based on the time-honored process of distributing the jobs to the right Congressional districts). Usual disclaimers; my suspicious private opinions only. Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com <blocked::mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com> <mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com%3E> WB6WSN NARTE Certified EMC Engineer Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Applications San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of > ola...@juno.com > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:34 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Emissions from Computer power supplies - update > > Wikipedia: > "Roger Boisjoly, the engineer who had warned about the effect of cold > weather on the O-rings, left his job at Morton Thiokol and became a > speaker on workplace ethics.[46] He argues that the caucus called by > Morton Thiokol managers, which resulted in a recommendation to launch, > "constituted the unethical decision-making forum resulting from intense > customer intimidation."[47] For his honesty and integrity leading up to > and directly following the shuttle disaster, Roger Boisjoly was awarded > the Prize for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility from the American > Association for the Advancement of Science." > > MacDonald had an engineering background, but at the time he was a > Thiokol manager at the launch center and later wrote a book about the > disaster. 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