Further to my post on this subject, it's worth noting that the "white with blue stripe" or "blue with white stripe" combinations often seen in machine tools are not defined in EN 60204-1. The white/blue combo was defined in NFPA 79, and remains in clause 13.2.3.2(1) in the current edition (2007).
Blue/white is not defined in any standard as a grounded DC return, and is an error commonly repeated in the machine tool world. -- Doug Nix d...@ieee.org On 16-Dec-09, at 12:31 , Glyn Garside wrote: Careful, I think we have 2 questions here. First was I think for the building wiring. Q below is for a "system". What kind of system? If an industrial machine, EN 60204 series, already mentioned, is applicable. If some other kind of system, there may be other requirements. (If none, only then I might use wiring regs or 60204 as guidance.) Most of the colours mentioned below such as yellow or orange have special meanings in some stds. Using black for ground seems a bad idea. Is it really ground, or just the 0V / return? Glyn Garside -----Original Message----- From: John Cochran <jcoch...@strongarm.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:04 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Cable colours for DC wiring I would like to know this also, as I can find no definite standard for DC wire colors in Europe or US. We did have one system evaluated in Denmark, and they insisted that the +24VDC wire be blue and its return be white. I tend to go with the colors used with ATX power supplies: +5V=red, +12V=yellow, +3.3V=orange, -12V=blue, ground=black. Thanks, John Cochran Strongarm Designs -----Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of m...@sfo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Cable colours for DC wiring It is my understanding that there is no standard for colours except for safety and earth ground type connections being reserved with greens, yellow bands, etc. However, my preference from working in PC power supplies has always been +12,15V red, return red/black +5V orange, return orange/black gnd, black -5v blue, return blue/black -12,15v purple, return purple/black Then all the signal lines were leftover colours. [The entire original message is not included] - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@socal.rr.com> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@socal.rr.com> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>