The light sensor of interest here is the human eye, with characteristics quite
divergent from electronic detection.  Asserting that any DC power supply has
ripple amplitude high enough to meaningfully modulate LED output without
upsetting other circuitry strains credulity.  Coming from the other direction,
even if you drove an LED with full wave rectified AC without any benefit of 
filtering whatsoever, the 120 Hz flash rate is too fast to be perceived as
flicker.  Try it.  

http://webvision.med.utah.edu/temporal.html has a reasonable explanation of
the science behind this.  The eye itself provides smoothing because its
minimum integration time is not faster than the 10 to 15 msec range.  Under
low illumination conditions it can approach 100 msec, which is why we can
comfortably watch movies at 24 frames/sec in a darkened theater.  The dividing
line between ability to see flicker and only perceiving steady light is in the
75 to 85 Hz range for bright light.  The dividing line between always seeing
flicker and never perceiving steady light is nominally 12 Hz or so for very
dim light.  The xenon strobes sometimes used on stage and at dances to created
jerky motion effects run slower than that.

150 Hz is sufficiently high that not only is flicker perception essentially
zilch, but one suspects an intention to suppress motion artifacts as well.  An
example of this phenomenon can be seen at night when an auto with strobed LED
tail lights crosses your visual field at a high rate (e.g. the vehicle can
even be stationary, but you'll see a trail of dots if you flick your eyes past
it).  This has no relation with flicker perception as such.  Even a 1000 Hz
strobe rate is easily detected if the source flies by at 1000 feet/sec.  But,
looking around a room at normal rates is probably slow enough that 150 Hz
strobing is not apparent.

But to return to the regulatory question; did the new regs unthinkingly ban DC
drive?  If so, the responsible person(s) need(s) to be bopped over the head
with an LED flashlight.

Orin


LEDs are more apt to cause perceptive flicker because they are so fast
responding! Incandescents do intensity smoothing because of the glowing
filament but are not immune to flickering either albeit at much lower
ability. Of course that assumes that they are powered with varying dc hence
the minimum 150 Hz requirement. (This is considered a reasonable threshold
of minimum flicker perception by 90-something percent of the populace;
unless you drink coffee all day!)
A very cheap power supply would have minimal post-rectification capacitance
and thus its DC is very rippley. This ripple, if large enough, will cause
perceptive flicker that is more noticeable from LEDs than incandescents.

Hans Mellberg



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Subject: Fw: Re: [PSES] Energy Star Requirements for LED Luminaries

Ordinary LEDs respond somewhere in the 50 nanosecond time range.  With that
kind of bandwidth there is no danger of optical smoothing below 10 MHz,
thus the choice between measuring electrons or photons at 150 Hz is moot.
Is there an exception to the 150 Hz lower limit, or is the use of 0 Hz now
banned?

Meanwhile, someone at the DOE is probably writing a proposal to form a
committee to commission a study to propose a recommendation for the answer
to your question.

Orin Laney

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