We are currently evaluating absorber material for our OATS, and are trying to
determine how much of the ground plane we need to cover. Obviously, the entire
turntable is covered, but how far, perpendicular to the antenna-EUT axis, do
the absorbers need to extend on the ground plane between the turntable and the
antenna? 
 
All I seem to recall reading is that absorbers are placed between the EUT and
the antenna, but don't remember seeing minimum dimensions specified. Is the
2.4m x 2.4m a "rule of thumb" that seems to work or is this actually called
out in one or more of the standards?
 
Maybe I haven't read enough standards?
 

John D. Flavin 
Teradata TCP Engineering 
17095 Via del Campo 
San Diego, CA 92127 
[email protected] 
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F: (213) 337-5432 

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elliott
Mac-FME001
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:15 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: CISPR22:2005 + A1:2005


Hey Tim / group
 
I don't know whether or not this would meet the CISPR requirements but may be
a place to start. 
 
The proposed ANSI C63.4 revision [that I saw last year] requires meeting the
CISPR 16-1-4 requirements or alternately using absorber that is at least 20 dB
down for freqs over 1 GHz [not sure what the upper range is off hand]. 
 
The requirements is a 2.4m * 2.4m for 3m OATS and proportionally larger for
larger sites - which for a 10m site comes out to 8m*8m - quite a large
footprint. 
 
There are companies out there that state that their absorber that meets these
criteria will be weather [rain and sun] resistant and should retain their
electrical characteristics for 5 years or maore - but they are quite expensive
- especially for a 10m site.... This company has plastic anchors that you can
attach to your ground plane to keep the absorber in place. 
 
I have done some preliminary experimentation on my 3m site with the absorber
and it seems that - except for a few points - NSA comes in under 1GHz with the
absorber down. May even improve. Challenged my thinking on the perfect site
model and NSA curves because I thought a perfect reflection was included. Was
told this would be the case but needed to see it myself. I want to repeat the
tests using only ANSI C63.5 2006 antenna factors and see how it works out -
maybe those few troublesome spots will come in.  [if I can get site time for
experimentation!.]. Would like to do these tests before the Symposium
hopefully. 
 
Maybe an OATS that has a significant OFA with these absorbers would meet the
CISPR requirements. If the experimentation I describe above is favorable I
plan to try that as a next step and will keep the forum posted .
 
If anyone can think of reasons that the solution above could not meet the
CISPR requirements would like to hear them as well. 
 
Anyway, hope this helps
 
Best regards,
 
Mac Elliott

[    ] General Public  
 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CISPR22:2005 + A1:2005


Hello Group,
 
I have a question on the new CISPR22 ammendment that becomes effective
10-2010. It requires free space emission measurements above 1GHz. This is
typically done with ferrite absorber on the chamber floor.
 
How does one address this issue when testing on a 10 meter OATS? Are there any
site modifications needed?  The OATS uses a mesh (chicken wire) for the ground
plane instead of solid metal panels.
 
Please also advise if there is any new site validation requirements to do
testing above 1GHz. In the past, if NSA is passing below 1GHz, the site would
be valid for testing above 1GHz.
 
Thanks,
Tim Pierce
TAP Engineering & Associates

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