Hi Grace,

I'd like to take a little different stance to some of the other list 
member replies. Specifically I want to point out that the noise you see 
is NOT harmonics.

What is actually happening is that when the Triac turns on, there is a 
significant dV/dt that appears at the LISN terminal. While the wave 
produced is harmonic rich, the scanning receiver does not resolve 
spectral lines, it only draws a point on the graph each time the turn on 
occurs. When you are doing the formal sweep, you are scanning so slowly 
that it appears like you have a smooth(ish) line considerably above the 
noise floor. in reality, you are seeing pulses synchronized at the point 
in the line cycle.

To show this happening what you need to so is speed the sweep rate very 
quickly, and observe th e effect of triggering the SA using the power 
line sync and ten free run. This shows exactly why you get the curve you do.

I have charts somewhere here if you would like to see them, I cant 
attach them to this email.

Of course, it follows the biggest spike follows the biggest transition 
which occurs at 90 and 270 degrees...

Slowing the turn on time is the key to lowering the emissions, and that 
is more tricky than it sounds.... in practice. But usually, the noise 
dies on it's own by 5 or 6 MHz.

I hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Derek Walton

L F Research

Grace Lin wrote:
> Dear Members,
>  
> Is there any specific instrument settings for taking power line 
> conducted emission?  It seems the dimming function of a dimmer brings 
> up a lot of noise at low frequency such at 150 kHz.  Disabling the 
> dimming function brings down the emission up to 30 dB at 150 kHz in 
> one case.
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Best regards,
> Grace Lin
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