Hello Neven, 
 
setting safety and EMC aside for a moment, be careful not to overlook your
video signal quality.  Exceeding 750ft with RG59/U coax is not recommended in
security video applications.  The signal loss at 2,000ft would render the
video unusable.  Specifying coax with heavier gauge center conductor will
allow you to run additional distance and help preserve your SI, but not by
much and your cost will go up.  This assumes a passive, straight connection
between camera and head end (monitor, DVR, etc).  
 
You may want to consider UTP instead of coax.  A good quality, active UTP
video network can easily exceed 2,000ft with no appreciable signal distortion.
 The UTP video link is immune from the 'ground loop' issues that can plague
long coaxial cable runs.  Whether the camera is powered by a limited power
circuit, as Ted explained, or by a.c. mains, the UTP link can help you avoid
performance issues in the field.  
 
If the cable absolutely must be RG59/U, then connect a suitable isolation
transformer to one end of the cable to help limit the common mode current flow
on the braid.  Use a good quality video amplifier in conjunction with the
isolation transformer for the coax runs over 750ft. 
 
 
cordially, 
 
Chet Summers
Sr. EMC Engineer
Pelco
[email protected]
 
 
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted Eckert
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Security Camere Coax Grounding



Take a look at Article 725 of the National Electrical Code (NEC) for
requirements in the United States.  If the circuit is a power limited circuit,
the NEC will not require a safety ground.  See NEC Tables 11(A) and 11(B) for
the definition of these circuits.  You will find the requirements to be
basically the same as the IEC 60950-1 requirements for Limited Power Sources.

 

For Europe, consider starting with IEC 60364.  Many of the European electrical
codes will have deviations from this standard, but the basic content should be
similar.  IEC 60364-4-411 allows SELV circuits to be ungrounded.

 

Disclaimers: You will need to look at the power levels, isolation and circuit
classifications of the signal in the cable.  Information I have provided is
for reference only; obtain copies of the standards and review them to make
your own decision about the applicability of any clauses.

 

Regards

Ted Eckert

Compliance Engineer

Microsoft Corporation

[email protected]

 

The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.

 

 

 

From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Security Camere Coax Grounding

 

Neven – There *may* be building code requirements that you will have to
meet. Not sure what those are. I suggest a
review of the NEC2008. 

 

Chas

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Security Camere Coax Grounding

 

Can anyone help me understand what would be the requirement, preferably
worldwide worst-case if possible, for connecting the outer conductor
("shield") of the coaxial cable (RG59) in a security-camera application? The
cable can be up to 2000 ft (~ 600m) long, between the central unit (inside the
building) and the remote camera (anywhere within the reach). The application
can be anything from industrial to apartment buildings.

Can I (or do I have to) connect the outer conductor to the safety ground
(enclosure) on both ends? .. on one end (which?), etc.

Alternatively, do  I need to provide safety isolation from the outer conductor
to the safety GND (enclosure?), how much, on which end, what kind of caps to
GND can I use for EMI if I need safety isolation, etc.?

I am asking strictly from the safety/regulatory hard requirement point of
view, not trying to discuss which would be better for EMC. Is there an simple
answer? Did I miss any key info or question?


Thanks, Neven

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