> -----Original Message-----
 > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf 
 > Of Cortland Richmond
 > 
 > On a recent assignment, a place I was helping was cited by 
 > their State OSHA
 > equivalent for not having the power terminals on LISN's 
 > covered to prevent
 > contact. There's a lot of stuff in a lab that can bite.  Hard. 

Would like more info on the basis of requirement that this 'hazard' be
mitigated, if the access to the area is controlled and only trained personnel
familiar with hazard mitigation are allowed to operate equipment. I am
constantly arguing with the fire/health inspector on this issue, and am weary
of citing the same OSHA clauses. Last month, I was down the street visiting a
friend at his place of employment and watched the same inspector walk by some
serious fire and shock hazards in a common area. To quote the great
philosopher Bugs Bunny, "what a marooon..."
 
 > > [Original Message]
 > > From: Derek Walton <[email protected]>
 > > Subject: Re: scope probe gnd
 > >
 > > Hi Folks,
 > >
 > > I was keeping quiet.... but you know sometimes it's just too much.

 > > Cortland Richmond wrote:
 > > In a previous life -- at a company no longer around -- 
 > when our Safety
 > >  Engineer quit we EMC types had to step in, and one of 
 > the very first
 > things I did was get rid of a lethally ungrounded scope setup. 
 > It costs little to use probes rated for line voltage or better and dual
channel math functions to allow proper safety grounds. 

I can think of several reasons that your former safety engineer 'floated' the
test equipment. And I have a large banner above my safety benches that
indicate that "test equipment on this bench may be floated - extreme shock
hazard".
I also routinely have type test set-ups that expose hundreds or thousands of
volts to the bench user. And so what ? The lab is a controlled space. What
concept am I missing ?
 

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