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I am enjoying this conversation. It's worth pointing out to the non-BBC watchers that there are no commercials/adverts on the BBC. They get their money through the license fee. So, basically, we are paying for the privilege/opportunity to watch television without any commercials or advert breaks. It's nice for films, where there isn't an interruption every 20 minutes (unless you need the toilet, of course). We also have the opportunity to complain about BBC services, since we're paying for them. It also helps keep them politically neutral, since they don't have sponsors to worry about. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: 08 August 2012 19:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics Subscribing suggest a written consent, and a received license in return, so a contract. Receiving BBC is possible without that, so it is stupid to require citizen to pay for that. If they want people to pay for it than have it scrambled. The UK want you to pay but do not provide a License, and there is no delivery clause either, It's a one-way benefit system, it's theft. Like making people paying for books in the store they never intent to buy nor read. Gert gremmen Van: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Verzonden: woensdag 8 augustus 2012 20:34 Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen CC: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics I like the idea about the right to receive anything. However, if you're watching BBC, then you are in effect subscribing to it, and so I can see the rationale for a license to receive. (just as there is a subscription to satellite radio) Some folks also think it's their right to transmit without an license. Fortunately they are few and far between, but there are some who insist it's a right, not a privilege to use the radio spectrum. I've got my license and I use it sparingly and at lowest power necessary to make a QSO. ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering From: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" <g.grem...@cetest.nl> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Date: 08/07/2012 11:13 PM Subject: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics _____ In the Netherlands the "right to receive" is very well defended, to the extent that speed radar detection systems cannot be prohibited. The right to receive is seen in the same way as the right to speak , which is not so odd because having the right to speak when no one listens makes no sense ;<) This is not the same all over Europe, in spite of trying to harmonise legislaton. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 P Before printing, think about the environment. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [ <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Woodgate Verzonden: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:44 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics In message <006801cd74e6$a5614d90$f023e8b0$@cox.net>, dated Tue, 7 Aug 2012, Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net> writes: >The British apparently never had the mindset of public ownership of the >spectrum, so its government had no precedent to keep it from realizing >yet another revenue stream. John & Chris, do you agree with that? Yes: the GPO owned the spectrum. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. 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