Gary, 60335 does not specify EMC standards directly. Clause 19 has reference to some EMC testing for some conditions. Most people who use 60335 series standards apply 55014-1, -2 for EMC.
Regards, Josh Taylor Company A division of Carrier Commercial Refrigeration, Inc From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? Thanks John. Just for those still following this thread. The research boils down to two approvals. In the US it would be UL 22 for the rest of the world (well EU and Canada) it would be the 60335-1, and 60335-2-85, at least for safety. Without 60335 in my hands I don’t know if it specifies and EMC standard. I’m looking into that. Just FYI part of the research, after calling both UL and CSA, then I took a look at both UL and CSA’s data bases for amusement games, video slot machines etc, and noting that a very large player in this market has certifications just as described above, UL22 and 60335. Looks like I’m stuck still doing it twice – self certifying to the CE mark isn’t an option in this case. I’m getting the standards (once the PO goes through hoops) but in the meantime can anyone tell me if 60035 series addresses an EMC standard? Gary From: John Cotman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:18 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? If you look at how 60335-1 defines “household and similar”, it’s much wider than just things used in the home, covering products used by non-expert people in shops, offices and the like. John C ________________________________ From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 October 2012 19:11 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? Thanks all. Consensus is running on 60335-2-82 (and 60335-1). I had looked at that but the title mentioned household – but as Ted pointed out the note below says “not” typically found in homes I read that the opposite the first time. Thanks Gary From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:51 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? Yep, sorry. I was wrong we used 60335-2-82 also. From: Knudsen, Patricia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:36 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? IEC 60335-2-82, Household and similar electrical appliances - Safety - Part 2-82: Particular requirements for amusement machines and personal service machines Examples of amusement machines that are within the scope of this standard are billiard tables; bowling machines; dartboards; driving simulators; gaming machines; kiddie rides; laser shooting appliances; pinball machines; video games. 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From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:01 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Gaming equipment Slot machines - Standard? I think UL 22 covers it in the US but does anybody have a clue for EU? Thanks Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface Technologies Featuring ADVANCED INPUT, MEMTRON, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. Wilbur Avenue Coeur d’Alene, ID 83815-9496 Office:208-635-8306 Cell: 509 868 2279 Toll Free: 800-444-5923 X 1238 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.esterline.com/interfacetechnologies<http://www.esterline.com/advancedinput> Technology, Innovation, Performance... - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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