You would need to make sure that the output of the power supply is a Limited 
Power Source in order to deal with fire hazards. The nameplate output ratings 
are necessary but insufficient information to determine if a fire hazard may be 
present. Also, it is possible that your regulators (maybe just the boost) could 
produce voltages internally that would be considered a shock hazard, which 
would require evaluation of the output circuits as SELV. There are a wide 
variety of DC/DC converters commercially available that have SELV inputs and 
SELV outputs which nonetheless still have 3rd party safety certifications. You 
should be able to find a certified one OTS (or multiple converters) that will 
work for you if you don't want to deal with the certification piece yourself. 
Maybe that defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do since you could 
just as easily find OTS certified AC/DC power supplies.

Technical considerations aside, you could always run into trouble with any 
given local authority or customs official wanting to see certification on your 
mixer, not just on the power supply that connects to it or that it ships with.

Also, you should be aware that most notebook power supplies nowadays have more 
than just the power output pins - they have feedback signals that are intended 
to keep the supplies in a low power consumption mode when the computer is in 
the off state in order to comply with various efficiency regulations. If you 
don't provide the right signal, you won't get power out of them.

Scott Aldous
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From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mcburney, Ian
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:24 AM
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Subject: Product safety requirements

Dear Colleagues

We are a manufacturer of audio mixing consoles with a range that varies from A4 
size up to large 2m long 2 man lift consoles.
Most have internal ac/dc power supplies.
We are researching changing the way we power are future products to rationalise 
the psu range as worldwide approval costs increase.
One of the options is to purchase 60-80W PC laptop power supplies and power the 
smaller mixers from the DC output of the external laptop supply.
The DC output voltage from a laptop PSU is typically 19V. However; most mixers 
require typically +/-15V, +10V & +48V internal voltage rails.
We propose to buck regulate the +/-15V and +10V rails & boost the +48V rail 
from the 19V DC input.
If the total power consumption of the mixer was no more than 80W and the +48V 
was current limited to no more than 1 Amp, would the mixer require approval 
testing for north America or any other country as the input voltage would only 
be 19V DC.
Obviously the external ac to dc laptop power supply would have all the 
necessary approvals; probably to IEC60950 and be class 1 construction.

Your opinions would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance;

Ian McBurney
Design Engineer

Allen & Heath Ltd
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Penryn, Cornwall
TR10 9LU
United Kingdom

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