Not all of UL is Not-For-Profit. The UL organization started creating the different business units as profit driven organizations some time ago. A couple years ago there was rumor of them dropping the Not-For-Profit moniker. I am not sure what happened with that.
Josh -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] UL 1699B where art thou Subject Outlines are being sold!? Shall I compose an ode to the wonders of Not-For-Profit organizations? Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Aldous, Scott Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: UL 1699B where art thou UL 1699B, the outline of investigation, is indeed available for general purchase. I bought a copy. My company is not a UL client nor are we on the STP. Maybe I misunderstood you. Scott Aldous Compliance Engineer AE Solar Energy +1.970.492.2065 Direct +1.970.407.5872 Fax +1.541.312.3832 Main [email protected] 1625 Sharp Point Drive Fort Collins, CO 80525 www.advanced-energy.com/solarenergy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: UL 1699B where art thou 1669B is not a standard and has not been released - it was issued as an outline on 29Apr2011 is not available for general purchase, and a bulletin was issued May2011. Both are available for free to UL clients having an Standards Certification Customer Library account or to STP members. this outline just sits there, the computer screen that glares. it mocks me, it taunts me. my eyes squint into the far-away, pixels for beads of darkness, that is this outline. and yet, I wait. I will wait for the standard. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Aldous, Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:21 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: UL 1699B where art thou UL1699B is published and available for purchase. You can search for it on www.comm-2000.com. Make sure you select "UL Outlines" when you search on it. Scott Aldous Compliance Engineer AE Solar Energy +1.970.492.2065 Direct +1.970.407.5872 Fax +1.541.312.3832 Main [email protected] 1625 Sharp Point Drive Fort Collins, CO 80525 www.advanced-energy.com/solarenergy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: UL 1699B where art thou Anyone on the 1699 STP? Am attempting to determine status of UL1699B. Silence since approx May 2011, and next NEC will probably include both serial and parallel arc detect in article 690. And as typical, the assigned engineer from a well-known 'non-profit' organization will not answer any questions. thanks, Brian - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>

